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Chastening
aqrinc:
Hi Sisters and Brothers,
His Chastening is so Right. I must say that i got Slapped and Hugged By God in the space of 3 (24hr Days).
There was a time i would have been worried and nervous about what is happening with my Family and self.
Not so anymore; i think i understand Job's Trials now. I would prefer not to have such fiery Trials but i know
that:
Deuteronomy 8:5:
You shall also consider in yours heart, that, as a man chastens his son, so the LORD your God chastens you.
Job 5:17:
Behold, happy is the man whom God corrects: therefore despise not you the chastening of the Almighty:
Daniel 10:12:
Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that you did set yours heart to understand, and to chasten yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I am come for your words.
Hebrews 12:7:
If all of you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chastens not?
george.
Jackie Lee:
I have been and being chastened, At least that is what I believe.
I may understand a bit more now... a few years ago I just couldn't figure out why all these things happen.
In fact I still wonder.
I just have to keep in mind it is for my good, I think/hope.
I am just so full of pent up anger now it is hard to feel worthy of even being chastened.
I sometimes hate these trials, Forgive me God I just can't help it.
If I tried to get away where would I go, can't run I tried that.
When I was young I was always taught to keep my emotions in check...I did that.
Now that I have been married for 21 years things remain the same the only way I keep my sanity is prayer.
Richard D:
Hello George, Jackie Lee.
Sometimes I feel leery about this chastening we go through. What I mean by this is that I believe that no one can persuade God in changing His mind as if somehow another outside of God was superior in their thinking that God should listen to that one.
When I think of everyone being predestinated I think every action we perform and every word we speak has been ordained by God. Now understanding we don’t have free will no person can originate any thought on their own but only respond to causes that force the only possible decision that would conform to God’s decree fulfilling His purpose.
How does one distinguish between the natural order of things and God’s chastisement? I read in the L.O.F. where Ray said that if people had free will you would think that of all the millions of people who ever lived that at least one would have used their free will to live right. The bible says all have fallen short of the glory of God.
If anything in my day goes sour or bad or unprofitable for me should I say I’m being chastised by God and when things go great should I say I’m doing everything right?
For the wages of sin is death, I believe God has the right to kill anyone as soon as they sin but He does not do this. Now having fallen short of the glory of God and also again it is written not one does right no not one.
I see my life is in a constant state of sin, maybe I’m ok in this area but the idea I’m alright in every area in my life as if I have become complete in the express image of God is absurd.
Life is very difficult and I’m wondering if our life is not in a constant state of chastisement? :-\
In His Love. Richard.
aqrinc:
Jackie Lee, Richard,
Thanks for responding to my post, it is a painful and difficult life we must all live here and now.
With a few scars on me i have some understanding of chastening. When my children did right
or learned something i am always quick with praise. When they do wrong or repeat the same
mistakes i will first gently chide, then strongly suggest then command them to change. At no
point do i stop loving or caring about what they do or that they should do well and good. The
scars have come from always waiting to the last minute to give them the chance to change or
fix it based on what they have learned in the past.
Just So but with a Trillion times more Love and Patience and Pain does Our Father go through
with each of us His children. So yes; the chastening and rewards are similar only in type and
in no way in kind. That is probably the lamest explanation yet, but it is the best i can do at
this time.
I will ask you all to put in a good word (Prayer) for me and my Family in this trying time.
Love, Peace, Endurance and Grace,
george.
hammerandnails:
Dear George,
I so feel for you, brother!
I know exactly how it feels.
As I go through chastening myself, I get so wrapped up in poor me mentality.
Some days I want somebody to wrap their arms around me and tell me that everything
will be ok, even if is a lie.
But, then, out of nowhere scripture come to me.
Especially the one :
"Looking to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; WHO FOR THE JOY THAT WAS SET BEFORE HIM
ENDURED THE CROSS, despising the shame, AND IS SET DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE
THRONE OF GOD." Heb.12:2
So, my brother,
"Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees," v.12
This scripture helps me to do just that, may be it may help you:
"And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of
bonds and imprisonment:
They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with
the sword: they wondered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute,
afflicted, tormented;"
"(OF WHOM THE WORLD WAS NOT WORTHY:) they wondered in deserts, and
in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth."
" And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE:"
"God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US, that they without us should not made PERFECT."
My heart and prayers go out to you and for you and your family,
that the Lord will give you strength to endure!!
Grace and peace from the Lord Jesus Christ!
Love you
Ariel
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