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frecklegirl417:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 08, 2008, 10:41:18 AM ---I have found that when my patience begins to fail (usually due to focusing on self, even subconsciously) that it begins a spiritual (sometimes physical as well) downward spiral where I get progressively more miserable, stubborn and dissatisfied with everything.
Before I started on what I believe to be a spiritual journey, well at least since I have become aware that this life is a spiritual journey experienced in the flesh, I was not one to be mired in anxiety over much of anything, my attitude often could be summed up in two words;
"Screw it."
Sometimes exclaimed more profanely...... Then I would move on and forget about it, at least until I was forced to deal with the situation (or ramifications) at some future point in time, now that "luxury" has been taken away, when selfish or impatient thoughts (even only thoughts) begin to occupy my mind and I do not immediately beg for His Spirit to strengthen me a lot of old temptations also begin to spring back to life, guilt and confusion reign, it is a horrible place to be.
I was reading James Chapter 3 when a few verses popped up and grabbed my attention, it seemed that James was speaking of this very thing.
James 3
13Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. (Every evil work!)
17But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
Which brought this to mind;
Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
Luk 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
Luk 11:26 Then goeth he and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
Ever notice this in your own walk?
Peace,
Joe
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To Joe and all that responded,
All I have to say is a very big Thank You! You have given me light on a subject that has been on my mind resently. I have said in the past and now "screw it", until I needed to do something about it. I found this post and read it twice it really spoke to me. I only wish I had some more wisdom to had.
Marlene:
Hello, Right before I found Ray's Website, I had fallen into a sin , that I was not able to forgive someone who hurt me. I now know that God enabled me to stop that sin and also, forgive not only that person, but also see my need to forgive everyone. Right after I found Ray's website I had so many things thrown at me and things I did overcome. I belive he wanted me to mature in my sinful life because he wanted me to take his truth seriously. But, you know this was just the begining. We battle this till we die. Of, this I am sure. After, he showed me his truths he showed me sins in me that I never knew I had.
Well, I was definitely not worshiping him in spirit and truth. I believed in Hell and he took me there. I wanted to die because I thought the sin I had was so bad.
It sure did teach me not to judge people. But, I always did think that the Holy Spirit had to dwell in me in order for me to over come. Right, before I had victory over that sin a Bible verse came to mind. Can't think right now where it isis. But, it came to my mind that he provides a way out of every temptation. Now, I am more conscious of that. But, that mind is truely a battlefield.
I believe that since we all obviously seem to me in the race, that we are seeing the fleshly sins, faster now. I could be wrong, but I really think What Paul was saying is true. We have a battle that rages inside of us , because we now want to do what is right. That old self loves to take its seat. Looks like we all are in the same boat so to speak. LOL But, I also know he put the desire for us to want to run that race. I know he put the desire in me not to want to sin even though we don't go to Hell. Now, I really Love him and I dont want that life of sin. But, its not easy, I do however believe he is able to bring us all to the finish.Glad I have Brothers and Sisters like you in the faith.
In His Love,
Marlene
Beloved:
I just had a conversation with a friend about another topic but now I am seeing how it relates to other things. Ray teaches the scriptures are parables and they are.
Well when Paul writes the following lines
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord
Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Many women cringe and can get very uncomfortable with this verse. The problem is that many do not understand that submission and patience are kissing cousins
It does not matter if the husband is a believer, a babylonean or part of the ungodly. Submission is not about the husband, it is about you...
it does not mean you have to agree with him, and it absolutly does not mean you have be abused by him...
The end of the sentance of the above two scriptures give the clue....you are to be confident that God is in control and that you will follow him and He will bring you to the point where he wants you to be. Your submission means that you live patiently and endure the things that God has planned.
You can see that when a women does this she possess a major strength. You have to draw closer to God to be able to do this.
Now I do not want people to vear off the topic of Patience and start jabbering about submission. I used this to point to the topic.
II Thessalonians 3:5 Now may the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.
Perhap that is why God inspired the apostle Paul to put so much emphasis on the essential virtue of patience. Patience is such an unnatural way for us to think. It is so against human nature—but it is so much a part of the way God is.
The demonstration of patience in a frustrating situation is one of the best indications that our character is being developed through the use of the Holy Spirit. It is part of the transformation, the conversion of becoming more like God
beloved
Jackie Lee:
Thanks for this thread, it certainly helps me. :)
When I think I can't take another minute.
Psalm 46:10 has been brought to my attention for the past few years.
Keeping that verse in mind always helps me.
Marlene:
Jackie, That is a good verse. Being still is hard. I would say that could be linked with patience. Its hard to shut our mouth. That is the same thing. Just enduring trials and chastening.
In His Love,
Marlene
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