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Why Mary
Beloved:
Mary and her nuclear genes and her physical family were just where they were suppose to be when Jesus came in the physical. When the Father created the earth...He had Jesus in mind...and saw down the future...
Don't get too wrapped up in the history....
Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
The orthodox church is wrapped up in sensations, experiences and feelings, they want money and physical healings....they are carnal and cling to the carnal.
Mary is you...when the Spirit of Christ finally comes into you....he is working on your embryo...he is circumcising your carnal flesh as you die daily ...........Jesus works in you....when you are perfected...you are reborn......you become "Christ like".....Begotten sons of God...no angel can say this...
Like Ray says....Mary is a parable...
beloved
winner08:
When God said that we should not worship any idols, does this include statues of Mary and even at that, Jesus also??? What about the saints??would praying to these statues be the same as, lets say any other religion who prays to statues such as ,well i don't want to name names. Still would it not be breaking one of God's ten?
aqrinc:
Beloved,
Thanks for putting my thoughts into the right words, i am amazed that these things are now just
starting to jump into my mind and mouth when needed.
For there is no other Name under Heaven Whereby we Must Be Saved, than The Name Christ Jesus.
Isaiah 42:8:
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 48:11:
For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not
give my glory unto another.
Acts 4: 10-12
10-Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom
all of you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him does this man stand here before you whole.
11-This is the stone which was set at nothing of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12-Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby
we must be saved.
george.
--- Quote from: Beloved on November 16, 2008, 12:27:45 PM ---To fulfill His word
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
We all carry the mitochondrial DNA of Eve. Jesus was to partake of the world of mankind. The Father provided the male zygote.
Mary's and Joespeh's lineage are both important for different reasons
Also it gave "the world" a reason to be skeptical, even in the gospels and especially after, Mary was accussed of fornication by the jewish religious. Later she was made "Queen" and prayed to. ( All religious slur..your mother wears combat boots)
If Jesus had come from "no where'....then hs connection to Israel would have no substance...he could then be claimed to be Buddah or some other religions leader.
How do you create a adam...and have any man observe it.?????
beloved
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Beloved:
Darren I do not think anyone here on the forum has statues of Mary and Jesus
At least I hope not. The only religious sort of thing that I have is a needlepoint picture of jerusalem.
Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Regarding the statutes etc , the Catholics bought into Goddess worship and were able to bring in a lot of pagans into the church because of it. They also added "Saint" worship, they sold their artifacts and indulgences etc....money money money. franc dollar shekel...$$$$
Mary was the person chosen by God but she was not without flaws like the rest of us.
I am always amazed when I read this verse, here is Mary after a miraculous conceptions and birth, and gifts from dignitaries so she could flee into Egypt
would now respond like this at His bar Mitzvah...when in Jewish custom...He officially became a man.
(Luk 2:46) And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
(Luk 2:47) And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
(Luk 2:48) And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
(Luk 2:49) And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
(Luk 2:50) And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
(Luk 2:51) And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
They had no idea what he was here to do....did she think He was going to overthrow Rome like the rest did....later the gospel hint that His family did not take to His ministry at first and were skeptical...like most of us were.
Perhaps that is why at thirty...she says at the wedding...Do whatever he tell you to do...
Here is a question to ponder...why did Jesus at the cross give John "custody" of His Mother and not Peter, or John's older brother James or to his half younger brother James (who later became part of the church)?
beloved
winner08:
So my question still stands is it or is it not breaking one of the Ten if one is kneeling in church looking at a statute of Jesus or Mary and praying?? Is it praying to the statue or praying to what the statue represents? (IE) Jesus or Mary.
PS I do not believe anybody here prays to statues either. But millions if not billions do. Are they praying to the statue or what it represents?? Is one a sin and not the other or both??
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