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Author Topic: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES  (Read 11992 times)

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geokuhns

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AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« on: November 17, 2008, 02:11:32 PM »

A friend sent me this link and I hope its approved for the Forum. Its a video on a "Christian" web site. The video is "amazing" and inspiring to watch. Just don't pay any attention to the articles on the site.  :)

http://pjcockrell.worldpress.com/2007/11/22/amazing-grace-just-the-black-notes/

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 04:20:11 PM »

Hi, George.

I would like to say welcome, just wanted to say brother that it does not work like that. No links allowed to any other Christian teaching. I made a few blunders myself believe me when I say you’re not alone here.

Welcome to the forum once again my friend and look forward to your threads.

                                               In God’s Love. Richard.
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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 05:08:45 PM »


Hi George,

I could not get your link to work, so I googled it and got the YouTube video at this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMF_24cQqT0

I really like it.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 12:01:24 AM »

That was nice George, thanks for sharing.

Eileen
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geokuhns

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 01:51:03 PM »

Thanks Kat. I wish I could have figured that out.  ???
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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 08:29:07 PM »

Sorry, but I have dial up so I can't watch it.  Anyway,

My take on the song "Amazing Grace"

Sing it churchy:

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,

It aint always so sweet.  There's alot of chastening with grace.

That saved I wretch, like meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

Hold it, you aint been saved yet.  I don't think there's been a ressurection yet, has there, screechy?

I once was lost, but now I am found,

Ha, you singing in Babylon's cathedral aint ya?  You still lost!!

Was lost, but now I seeeeeeeeeeeee.

Ha ha ha.  What do you see?  The tithe bucket?  The jesus statue?  The self righteous suits in the congregation?  Boy, you don't see nothin!!

Needless to say, I got thrown out of the church by some angry cross wearing goons that day.

As per the title "Amazing Grace-Just The Black Notes"

Who can tell me what key that this song could be played on the piano where only black notes are used?
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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 08:47:43 PM »

Would that be C#  (or is it Db) ?

I think I know it's a pentatonic melody.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 09:13:43 PM »

Actually, the melody does use pentatonic scale notes.  But it would have to be based on a major key to employ the harmonies.  Regardless, it would be the same key name.  And yes, the first note of the song would be C#(Db).  But the key would be. . . . .?
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 10:04:19 PM »

For more than one flat, the (major) key is the next-to-last (second from right) flat.

5 flats - D,E,G,A,B , but on the staff, the d is next to last.  Db should be the answer I think -- Dflat.

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 10:18:17 PM »

The flat key would have 6 flats.  The enharmonic equivalent would have six sharps.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 10:25:25 PM »

F# Major.

All black notes for Amazing Grace...

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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 01:13:52 AM »

I believe Legoman has it.

I've got an internet friend in Rochester New York that eats and breathes theory.  We've done a fair bit of music together online.  I'd love to know half of what he knows.  It hasn't really helped me that my main thing is guitar strumming...chords are patterns rather than thoughtful note selection.  There's a spiritual application in there somewhere if I can quit playing the Casio long enough to get it.   :D
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Heb 10:32  But you must continue to remember those earlier days, how after you were enlightened you endured a hard and painful struggle.

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 12:07:09 PM »

F# Major.

All black notes for Amazing Grace...

Kevin

Yooooouuu, 


are correct sir!!




OK music theory geniuses,  which "major keys" would use no black piano keys for Amazing Grace's melody?
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2008, 01:07:16 PM »

Amazing Grace melody in just the white notes, use any of these keys: C Major, F Major, G Major.

I too am a musicman, as well as a legoman :)

Cheers,
Kevin
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2008, 02:37:23 PM »

Some of you music geeks may enjoy this. 

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=1093091&t=4724

My vocals are in the section starting about 5:00 in.
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Heb 10:32  But you must continue to remember those earlier days, how after you were enlightened you endured a hard and painful struggle.

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2008, 02:55:01 PM »

Amazing Grace melody in just the white notes, use any of these keys: C Major, F Major, G Major.

I too am a musicman, as well as a legoman :)

Cheers,
Kevin


Cheaters!!!

Oh, that's right, I did say music theory geniuses.  I meant to say music hobiests who used to take lessons in middle school but gave up b cuz it required too much dedication.  No real musicians allowed on any more music questions.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2008, 03:00:29 PM »

By the way, if this song is supposed to be sung at funerals then why is it even in the major?  These are not happy events, are they?  How bout we all sing it in the minor just to be different and see what happens? 
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2008, 03:13:11 PM »

Just because you can sing it to bagpipes doesn't make it sad.   :D
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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2008, 04:59:29 PM »

Amazing Grace melody in just the white notes, use any of these keys: C Major, F Major, G Major.

I too am a musicman, as well as a legoman :)

Cheers,
Kevin


Cheaters!!!

Oh, that's right, I did say music theory geniuses.  I meant to say music hobiests who used to take lessons in middle school but gave up b cuz it required too much dedication.  No real musicians allowed on any more music questions.

LOL musicman.  Fortunately its that same dedication that let me read and study Ray's papers! ;)  I honestly think many people don't read Ray's stuff cause they give up after the first paragraph and they'd rather just be told what to believe.

Anyway fun topic...

Cheers,
Kevin
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Re: AMAZING GRACE - JUST THE BLACK NOTES
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 01:04:21 AM »

You guys are really making me sad :'(
I miss my saxophone...

Hey Dave
I do believe there is some spiritual significance to music.
Its all numbers
Its all math
Its all Science
Its all of God

Man I miss my horn!

Antaiwan
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