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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Richard D on November 22, 2008, 11:01:12 PM ---Marques.
One question maybe a few, where are you coming from these days may I ask? Tell me, are you the elect of God and no one knows it but you? Who are you to judge anyone whether they are in the churches or in a barroom? Have you through much learning become more righteous than everyone else?
Did God call you or have you elected to choose God? Do you truly know another’s heart? Now I see sister Marlene does not even want to post anymore because of your ridicule. How do you feel about that?
Did Ray teach us that all people who go to church are condemned by God? I used to go to church did you? How about drug addicts and alcoholics do they have a one way ticket to the lake of fire? Or what about the prostitute who turns tricks to support her children?
God caused humanity to suffer vanity so which one out of humanity do you wish to condemn? You need to lighten up brother. You know when the brought the women who was caught in adultery before Christ which was a stoning offence he said let him here who is without stone cast the first stone. What would have you said Marques?
Marlene, I hope you do not stop posting here, remember even Jesus said to peter get behind me Satan. That’s right Marlene Satan talks through those who believe and know so much about the things of God but have a heart of stone when it comes to a brother or sister.
Marlene, remember when Eve saw that the tree of good and evil was good for knowledge she went for it because of the pride of life. Marlene, I’ll tell you what I heard a long time ago, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck my sister and don’t you run from it because that’s exactly what Satan wants you to do but you just tell him you been forgiven and he got no business here.
God bless you sister and please don’t ever feel you cannot post, I felt like that only a day or two ago.
In God’s Love. Richard.
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Richard,
Could you please point out 1 of my comments that you have such a problem with? You seem to imply that I have made many inflammatory comments so I would like to know which ones and what scripture they contradict. Thanks
Marques
P.S. Again, this simple statement summed up all my comments earlier:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on November 22, 2008, 09:43:02 PM ---I was never trying to say those in Babylon are worse or that we are any better...just stating that worship without obedience is in vain.
--- End quote ---
Marlene:
Marques, To answer your question. I love knowing the truth. But, I have often had prayers answered while in Babylon. We are babes there are you saying God would not hear my prayer. He must have heard a prayer while I was lost in it. Because, I beged him for his truths. I found his truths on Rays, website. I know within our own self we are not good. But, him working in us is his good. So, how pray tell did I do good at all if he was not working in me. I would go into my closet alone and pray for his guidance. I believed he was the Saviour, but I really love knowing the truth. I worship him out of Love not fear. I Love him and don't want to hurt him. He puts that love in me and he enables me to obey. I never did think I could on my own. Matter of fact I knew not, but he loves them to and he will Judge them in truth and they will obey. But, I know you get a fair judgement by what you know.
Marques, all I can say is it is hard to understand each other on here. But, the Lord since I have learned truths here. Has made me love the blind more then ever. I actually cry for the lost and wish all could know truth. But, now it is in his time. But, he still gives me a burden to love like him. I love them and actually shed tears for them cause some are people in my family. Hope any of this is not understood. I could beat them up cause they dont know. But, I would never do this cause it is not Love, They Love me so someone enabled that in them.
In His Love,
Marlene
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Marlene on November 22, 2008, 11:52:48 PM ---Marques, To answer your question. I love knowing the truth. But, I have often had prayers answered while in Babylon. We are babes there are you saying God would not hear my prayer. He must have heard a prayer while I was lost in it. Because, I beged him for his truths. I found his truths on Rays, website. I know within our own self we are not good. But, him working in us is his good. So, how pray tell did I do good at all if he was not working in me. I would go into my closet alone and pray for his guidance. I believed he was the Saviour, but I really love knowing the truth. I worship him out of Love not fear. I Love him and don't want to hurt him. He puts that love in me and he enables me to obey. I never did think I could on my own. Matter of fact I knew not, but he loves them to and he will Judge them in truth and they will obey. But, I know you get a fair judgement by what you know.
Marques, all I can say is it is hard to understand each other on here. But, the Lord since I have learned truths here. Has made me love the blind more then ever. I actually cry for the lost and wish all could know truth. But, now it is in his time. But, he still gives me a burden to love like him. I love them and actually shed tears for them cause some are people in my family. Hope any of this is not understood. I could beat them up cause they dont know. But, I would never do this cause it is not Love, They Love me so someone enabled that in them.
In His Love,
Marlene
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Marlene,
I'm sorry, you say you're answering my question but I never asked one. I made a simple comment that was falsely made into me judging members of Babylon. I read many comments from you and Richard to me but these comments are never responses to my statements.
You and Richard ask me questions that I have never implied otherwise:
1. You ask me if God would not hear your prayer...I never said he wouldn't; I only stated that worship without obedience is in vain.
2. You ask how you did good if he was not working in you...I showed you that members of Babylon are said to have 'good works' but Christ still calls them 'workers of iniquity' [Matt 7:21-24] Stop trying to make it your opinion vs. my opinion...the scriptures speak for themselves, my opinion is not needed.
3. You ask me if those in Babylon have the Holy Spirit guiding them...I showed you scriptures that state that the spirit leads one into all truth [John 16:13] so NO they don't have the spirit in them. Please read the LOF series #7 & 8 for more information.
4. You ask me if I or others can judge their hearts...We don't need nor have to; they would rather worship the doctrines of man than that of God. Their own words and deeds condemn them. Not to mention the very words of Christ throughout His Word.
Now about your prayers being answered while in Babylon:
2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Isa 26:10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.
While we were in Babylon, whenever our prayers were answered, it caused us to go deeper and deeper into the heresy that is taught there. This is what God wanted at that time for us. When we were called out, we learn that those situations were merely to keep us in the dark. We now learn that our prayers are to have the Father's will be the desire of our hearts. We pray in the name of Jesus and everything it stands for including being the Savior of the world. We pray that His will be done and do not pray contrary to it (like world peace or peace in Israel) or any other junk.
I understand you are not trying to start a confrontation and I believe you as I have never read any of your posts that would suggest otherwise. Again I will state the original message I was trying to convey from the beginning before this went all downhill:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on November 22, 2008, 09:43:02 PM ---I was never trying to say those in Babylon are worse or that we are any better...just stating that worship without obedience is in vain.
--- End quote ---
Thanks,
Marques
aqrinc:
Hi Brothers and Sisters,
These Scriptures speak best to address what our heart is like, there are any amount of Scripture that will state the same thing
in several different ways. Like Jesus Christ Says:
John 6:63:
It is the spirit that vivifies; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jeremiah 17: 9-18
9-The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?
10-I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.
11-As the partridge that broodeth over young which she hath not brought forth, so is he that getteth riches, and not by right; in the midst of his days he shall leave them, and at his end he shall be a fool.
12-Thou throne of glory, on high from the beginning, thou place of our sanctuary,
13-Thou hope of Israel, the LORD! All that forsake Thee shall be ashamed; they that depart from Thee shall be written in the earth,
because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters.
14-Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved; for Thou art my praise.
15-Behold, they say unto me: 'Where is the word of the LORD? let it come now.'
16-As for me, I have not hastened from being a shepherd after Thee; neither have I desired the woeful day; Thou knowest it; that
which came out of my lips was manifest before Thee.
17-Be not a ruin unto me; Thou art my refuge in the day of evil.
18-Let them be ashamed that persecute me, but let not me be ashamed; Let them be dismayed, but let not me be dismayed; Bring upon them the day of evil, and destroy them with double destruction.
george.
Heidi:
--- Quote from: Richard D on November 22, 2008, 11:01:12 PM ---Marques.
One question maybe a few, where are you coming from these days may I ask? Tell me, are you the elect of God and no one knows it but you? Who are you to judge anyone whether they are in the churches or in a barroom? Have you through much learning become more righteous than everyone else?
Did God call you or have you elected to choose God? Do you truly know another’s heart? Now I see sister Marlene does not even want to post anymore because of your ridicule. How do you feel about that?
Did Ray teach us that all people who go to church are condemned by God? I used to go to church did you? How about drug addicts and alcoholics do they have a one way ticket to the lake of fire? Or what about the prostitute who turns tricks to support her children?
God caused humanity to suffer vanity so which one out of humanity do you wish to condemn? You need to lighten up brother. You know when they brought the women who was caught in adultery before Christ which was a stoning offence he said let him here who is without sin cast the first stone . What would have you said Marques?
Marlene, I hope you do not stop posting here, remember even Jesus said to peter get behind me Satan. That’s right Marlene Satan talks through those who believe and know so much about the things of God but have a heart of stone when it comes to a brother or sister.
Marlene, remember when Eve saw that the tree of good and evil was good for knowledge she went for it because of the pride of life. Marlene, I’ll tell you what I heard a long time ago, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck my sister and don’t you run from it because that’s exactly what Satan wants you to do but you just tell him you been forgiven and he got no business here.
God bless you sister and please don’t ever feel you cannot post, I felt like that only a day or two ago.
In God’s Love. Richard.
--- End quote ---
Richard....I think you owe Marques and apology.....I do not see anywhere where he was ridiculing Marlene.....his questions/answers was witnessed by scripture....he was only trying to explain, we all need to be a bit less quick off the block when it comes to responding to posts..... :)
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