Darren,
You are so brave. I have been reading this thread, holding back tears and feeling physically ill because I have no where to go if I leave this forum. However, the forum has become useless to me for the reasons you state in your post. I am afraid (yes, I know it's a sin to be timid and fearful), I have so many questions regarding Ray's papers but I don't want to be "labeled" unteachable, or carnal or having idols of the heart (as we all do) and like you said, I have read them over and over and over and still don't see some of the things that Ray even says are so "simple". I just say to myself, I guess God does not want me to see it yet. When they asked why I wanted to join the forum this is what I said:
My reason for wanting to Join is that sometimes I have questions that I know Ray is too busy to answer, so I thought I could get a better understanding on the Forum.
And they let me join. Perhaps they shouldn't have.
Anyway Darren, thanks for you courage, I am sure I am not the only one that echoes your sentiments.
Eileen
Eileen,
No where is it stated on this thread that it is wrong to ask questions.
From earlier:
"There is certainly nothing wrong with asking questions. What is a problem is if one asks questions seeking spiritual truths, given answers by multiple members, and then refusing to accept the truth as they only wanted an answer to fit their beliefs. These members seek to have the Word confirm their beliefs without realizing that it is us who need to be conformed to the doctrines of Christ [John 7:16].
We should never be fearful of asking a question...but we also cannot be fearful to look inward and realizing WE need to change and look to Christ for this."
What part of 'nothing wrong with asking questions' did you not understand?
'Holding back tears and being physically ill'? Did the scriptures referenced offend you so?
Marques
Hello brother Marques.
If you are wondering where Eileen might have got the impression she should not ask questions you might want to go back and read reply # 4 on your thread.
I believe you will find the answer there. I know you mean well my brother but it’s just not practical what you ask. It will be after the resurrection when perfection comes to us all.
I’m not trying to upset you or hurt you or belittle your ideas, please go back and read what you are asking on reply # 4. Maybe the angels in heaven can do as you ask but not human being who are being made in the image of God who are still learning.
You’re my brother in Christ and I love you as my brother in Christ and what you are asking is more than we or I can give IMHO.
What you ask sounds wonderful in a perfect world but we don’t live in a perfect world, that’s the problem I see.
God bless you Marques and all I ‘m asking is that you think about what your saying. I read your thread and I agree to disagree with the practicality of what you are asking and believe it to be harmful to those who might want to ask a question but won't out of fear of being ridiculed for not asking the right questions.
In Gods's Love. Richard.