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The Spirit of Patience (Fruit)
hillsbororiver:
Thank you Bob,
Let me take this opportunity to thank you as well, your peaceful and patient fellowship is greatly appreciated, it is very evident that you seek understanding through His Spirit of discernment in dealing with your brethren. A fine example of how we all should interact with others here and outside of here.
Back to my wife's experience.... When she first left her church and began to study on her own she started right at Genesis 1:1 and proceeded through every book in the OT and into the NT, when she showed me what she had "found" about the potter and the clay in Romans I then showed her what is written in Isaiah 64 and Jeremiah 18 in regard to this matter. It was a moment of amazement to her and she asked me "how could I have missed that?" ;)
Haven't we all had that feeling when verses suddenly come alive with relevence? I loved it when she said "I can't wait to see what I find when I read through again!"
Peace,
Joe
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 24, 2008, 07:15:14 AM ---Thank you Bob,
Let me take this opportunity to thank you as well, your peaceful and patient fellowship is greatly appreciated, it is very evident that you seek understanding through His Spirit of discernment in dealing with your brethren. A fine example of how we all should interact with others here and outside of here.
Back to my wife's experience.... When she first left her church and began to study on her own she started right at Genesis 1:1 and proceeded through every book in the OT and into the NT, when she showed me what she had "found" about the potter and the clay in Romans I then showed her what is written in Isaiah 64 and Jeremiah 18 in regard to this matter. It was a moment of amazement to her and she asked me "how could I have missed that?" ;)
Haven't we all had that feeling when verses suddenly come alive with relevence? I loved it when she said "I can't wait to see what I find when I read through again!"
Peace,
Joe
--- End quote ---
That is wonderful new Joe. I remember when we talked in Nashville about our respective wives in regards to having a knowledge of the truth so this especially is an inspiration to me as well. I have learned from your testimony and have weaned away from 'beating her over the head' with the spiritual truths we have been given. Thanks again Joe :)
Marques
Samson:
Great News George,
I just woke up about 15 minutes ago, was drinking my first cup of coffee,
boy it's good, but this wonderful news regarding your wife discerning God's
Will, not our Will and the beginning in her mind of no Free Will tastes even
better.
We desire that God Works in us to acquire Patience and in your case, another
Fruit of the Spirit was experienced and that is Joy upon hearing your Wife's
response. God is starting to remove the scales from your wife's eyes and I'm
very happy for you and her.
In regards to the discussion that you and Marques had about your wives while
at the conference, my experience with my wife was similiar. A few years ago she
would argue every point regarding the Scriptures, if brought up to even the
smallest degree. Once I shut my big overzealous mouth and let her be, she began
to examine the information from Ray, eventually asking sincere questions, 1Peter3:15.
Below is a new Email to Ray that " seems " to provide an example of someone
starting to Spiritually see with the eyes of understanding.
Anyway, it's the new Email and it's titled " Going to Heaven " and now I'm
getting trained to be patient, because I Copied it and attempted to paste
it and it didn't work, perhaps if someone feels like it, they could do it for me.
This Email indirectly relates to the kind of experience George received with his
Wife.
Again, Great News, Samson.
Kat:
Here is that email Samson,
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8766.0.html -------
I've been going to a "Christian" school since K5 and am now a senior.
They've always instilled truth in me but it was until I came across
your website that I found out that they've only been telling me half of
the truth. I've been reading a lot.. Especially the bits about hell and
who belongs there.. But I need to know one thing. You said that the
Bible says It is God's will and desire to save ALL MANKIND (I Tim.
2:4). And God will certain fulfill ALL THAT HE HAS PURPOSED (Isaiah
46:10-11). And if this is true... And I believe it is, because the
Bible says so.. It says that we will all be judged and purged of our
transgressions upon the return of Jesus Christ.. Then why do preachers,
chaplains, priests, and people like yourself even care, since we will
all go to heaven? I know about all of the money schemes. Like I said,
I've been reading a lot. But what is our purpose then if we don't
really need to lead anyone to him in order to save them from damnation?
Sincerely, Stephen
Dear Stephen: Do we think that God will "save" everyone by doing nothing? It is BY ministries like mine that those God is calling to repentance and into a knowledge of the truth, becomes the "firstfruits" of salvation (I Cor. 1:21). And it will BY similar ministries that all will eventually be judged, purified, and saved. (I have said nothing regarding "going to heaven." The Scriptures say nothing regarding anyone, ever, "going to heaven.)
God be with you, Stephen,
Ray
David:
Thats great news George, any chance you could come and have a word or two with my wife and see if it works on her? :D ;D ;)
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