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Out of Egypt
Richard D:
Hello Marques.
I have read this thread and see you have made some great points. But after rereading this thread a few times I feel this thread is about bringing one under law, this is just my opinion my brother.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
If it were possible to lump everyone into the same identical spiritual understanding there would not be conflicts on the forum. If I may used the analogy of school grades one through twelve would a sophomore teacher expect the same from a fifth grade student?
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Marques, I cannot answer for another only myself and as God shows me my failures and short coming in this life I can only identified with the publican.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:38 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.
God has brought all of us to this forum with different personalities and backgrounds from the Unites States to China and in between. As our personalities differ so won’t the threads and responses also differ because we are at different spiritual areas in our walk with God.
Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Rom 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Is it possible that there may be some here who are using deception?
Luk 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
As I’m contemplating on what you’re trying to covey, it brings to my understanding a perfect forum which is great. I think the only way to achieve this type of forum where everyone is on the same page is to allow membership to this forum after passing a test on all of Ray’s papers and of course is one receives less that a grade of 100% on the test then admittance to membership should be denied.
Now as long as everyone on the forum kept equal in knowledge with one another all would be well until just one of its members where to advance in knowledge over another member, then we would be back to square # 1 again.
I’m seeing much criticism in your thread about a brother or sister posting and replying in a way you do not approve of.
Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
We are all here to learn but some of us learn faster than others and I believe it takes one more time to loose their worldliness than another too. One can only grow at the rate God has determined and not by the determination of the believer or another forum member.
Marques, I have only expressed my opinion as you have expressed your opinion my brother, but what you have expressed to my understanding is putting one under law, especially those who’s understanding fall short of your understanding or Another’s.
IMHO
In God’s Love. Your friend and brother, Richard.
aqrinc:
Brothers and Sisters All,
Once again i will interject with hope that what i write does not cause strife but edifies all who
read it. One of The Fruits Of The Spirit is Longsuffering another is Patience; these two seem to
be most needed and least practiced by Believers when under fire (spiritual attack) in many instances.
Sometimes when conversing online most of what we want to convey is only being seen or at
least looked at on the visual level. Wisdom (Another Fruit) would tell us to ask for clarification
and then contemplate hard and long before answering. Since early in the morning of Sun 23rd
November there has been a series of rapidfire responses and counterfire to percieved attacks.
We the Believers are under attack in a very ferocious and devious way by mighty forces of
spiritual darkness intent on sowing discord and if possible to destroy any who may be weak.
It is time to circle the wagons and aim out not in, those that are weak need Cuddling and Love.
We are all here because we have been called and dragged against our will out of Egypt and then
enlightened. As Jesus Christ Is Saying: In as much as you have done it onto the least of these;
My Brothers (Children) you have done it unto me.
george.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Richard D on November 24, 2008, 02:05:10 PM ---We are all here to learn but some of us learn faster than others and I believe it takes one more time to loose their worldliness than another too. One can only grow at the rate God has determined and not by the determination of the believer or another forum member.
Marques, I have only expressed my opinion as you have expressed your opinion my brother, but what you have expressed to my understanding is putting one under law, especially those who’s understanding fall short of your understanding or Another’s.
--- End quote ---
Richard, I don't understand how you missed these statements after reading and rereading this thread as you stated.
"It's not a matter of one stating 'Well, I am not as learned as you'. That has nothing to do with it and I am tired of hearing that lame excuse. It is a matter of being humble, being teachable, and giving up these idols of the heart."
"6. Some create idols of the heart by using the excuse 'well, I'm still learning' to post heresy after heresy. The are not well learned in the teachings of Ray and neither do they want to be. They want to continue to hold on to false beliefs from the church with a death grip which is exactly what it is. 2 Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Tim 3:8-9 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
This has nothing to do with 'being under law'. Your opinion is off-base and unfounded.
This thread is a call to all members to not look back to Egypt and speak out on those that do so. Not all members will understand this as they only give their idols of the heart full attention. I have explained this enough...either we are to edify (help and/or correct) one another or be edified (accept help and/or correction) from one another. If one does not fit one of these positions, they have no place here as their stubbornness only causes strife, conflict, and chaos. For what fellowship does light have with darkness?
Thanks,
Marques
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: aqr on November 24, 2008, 02:38:58 PM ---It is time to circle the wagons and aim out not in, those that are weak need Cuddling and Love.
--- End quote ---
No George...while your acts of peacekeeping have their place, this 'cuddling and love' only promotes those who wish to please the flesh.
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
"These verses are very plain...we are not to put up with this carnality at the expense of portraying a 'lovey-dovey' forum. We are not to speak 'smooth things' to tickle the ears of those who continue to resist the spirit and dwell in the flesh."
Thanks,
Marques
mharrell08:
Few excerpts from 'Fools, Hypocrites, Snakes':
"I'm not sure why it is automatically assumed that if one sounds angry there is something wrong with his message. When speaking of immoral and evil things that hurt and deceive people, it behooves us to be ANGRY about such things. Anger does not have to be a sin. God’s anger is mentioned a couple of hundreds times in Scripture. Many of the teachings of the Church are not only evil, but they are stupid and foolish. Sarcasm is often the perfect exposer of stupidity."
WHEN LIGHT IS DARKNESS
"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore, your eye be single, your whole body shall be full of light. But if your eye be evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the LIGHT that be in you is DARKNESS, how great is that darkness!" (Matt. 6:22-23).
What? If the LIGHT that be in you is DARKNESS? Isn’t that a little demeaning and sarcastic to say that even our own goodness is evil (dark)? This is not only an exaggeration; this is a physiological IMPOSSIBILITY! Yes, a "physiological" impossibility, but NOT A SPIRITUAL impossibility! Jesus is saying that even the supposed "goodness" (light) in us, is actually "evil." (darkness). How can that be? Because:
"…None is good, save One, that is , GOD" (Luke 18:19).
Maybe it is about time some of you started to feel a little anger toward all the spiritual swill and filth that is merchandised and peddled to the world in the name of Christianity! For those few, however, who are teaching the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, GOD BLESS YOU ONE AND ALL!
Marques
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