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Ricco:
Good Day all my blessed brothers and sisters the chosen ones,

I am confused about the end times, how is it going to come about?
When will the first resurrection be? When is the day of the Lord?
When is the millenial reign, and consequently the second ressurection?
When is satan going to be bound?
Can anyone map it out for me, there is so much controversy about it
please with scripture.
Thanks in advance for your loving care

God bless you all

Dave in Tenn:
Hi Ricco.  To be honest, I think you are looking in the wrong place to find some kind of a flow-chart guide to literal prophecy.  Read the LOF series and you'll see that prophecy is spiritual.  We are in the end times, and man has been in the end-times at least since the words came out of the mouth of Christ.  Everything that has been said in Scripture is for our edification, benefit, reproof, correction.  We can't look at bible history without understanding this...how much less can we look at prophecy without understanding it?

I'm without e-sword right now, but I'll try to paraphrase what Jesus said when He was asked questions similar to yours.  "I don't know...only the Father knows the day and hour."  What a powerful statement that is coming from the One who knows the hearts of men.

Speculation on end-times 'theory' from scattered mentions in the NT and literal  (carnal) understanding of prophetic books is the stock in trade of the churches.  As with everything, they cannot even agree among themselves.  They stand no chance of explaining any of it until they can see the meaning beyond the 'signs'.  Once we understand that who the Letters to the Seven Churches in Asia, as an example, are actually adressed to, we might begin to understand the 'end-times'.

Anyway, Ray has not presented an 'eschatology' that answers your questions neatly and literally.  I personally wouldn't trust anybody who did.  Instead, he has poured out mountains of spirtually edifying work mostly in the Lake of Fire series.  There's some real meat there that you'd only get to nibble in a forum.

Hang in there. 

Kat:

Hi Ricco,

We can all speculate on this things, like so many have done to the pass to their on folly.  We need only be concerned with our daily walk with God and all things will fall into place as He sees fit.
Here is the passage that Dave was referring to.

Mark 13:32  "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
v. 33  Take heed, watch; for you do not know when the time will come.
v. 34  It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to be on the watch.
v. 35  Watch therefore--for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrow, or in the morning--
v. 36  lest he come suddenly and find you asleep.
v. 37  And what I say to you I say to all: Watch."

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Martinez:

I've been doing a bit of thinking lately about the whole thief in the night thing.

Lot's and lot's of people have asked the question what does Jesus mean by "a thief in the night"?

I think maybe the thieves the bible talks about is actually those in the mainstream christian church and when He says that He shall return as a thief in night, I think He means He return as those sons of God that the creation has been waiting for among those who call themselves Jew's but are not.

They will look just like the tares until harvest time except they will be God's chosen elect!

The night aspect is referring to the spiritual state of the orthodox christian church I think.

One of the verses that gives me this idea is that anyone who denies that Christ has come in the flesh is an Antichrist.

That's just what I have been getting out of those verses lately.

Ricco:
Thank you brethren for your input God bless you all

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