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dominian:
Hello all

I looked at those notes and like i said, i believe that, but what about the issue of death.  How would use answer the question, How could death supreceed sin when death is a byproduct of man sin(the fall)?  Thanks for the notes links!!
dominian

Beloved:
Dominion look at the actual verb in Genesis

(Gen 2:17)  and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it--dying thou dost die.'

Animals and plants and humans setainly died throughout the times of creation, and it appears that some had longer lifespans that what we see now.

Man then later put a limit on the human life span

Gen 6:3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.

The antiaging movement believes that living longer is possible if one has the genetics and can remove negative environmental effect...which is of course very difficult today because man keeps adding enormous amountst of environmemtal hazards in the name of progress.  The number od centarians has increased recently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people

I hope this helps

beloved

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi dominian

To add to Beloved's valuable post, I do not think that God's creation is something God is making up as He goes along. God knows the beginning from the end and God is not an idiot. Death was in the Mind of God before the Dinosaurs were created. All is out of God.

The first time death appeared in God's Mind or when or how that happened I do not know.
 
Death is not a separate entity but a consequence, result or effect that is in the Plan and Purpose of God.
 
You ask

--- Quote ---Could death have reigned even before man came on the scene??
--- End quote ---

Death can not "reign." God reigns. Death is a consequence of sin, missing the mark, rebellion, arrogance and disobedience to say the least.

For Christ must reign until He humbles all His enemies beneath His feet. And the last enemy to be destroyed is death. For the Scriptures say " God has put all things under His authority. 1 Cor 15:25

I believe that God put all things under the authority of Christ from before Gen 1:1 and not during or after. Christ told us this when He stated that He lays His life down and no one takes it from Him because the Father has given Him the power to lay it down and take it up again.

To conclude that man coexisted with the dinosaurs based on the assumption that death did not exist earlier on does not address that Christ existed before Genesis 1:1 or that Adam and Eve may not have been the first humans or what Science has discovered. Who was Cain afraid of? When did God the Father give His Son the power over death? Was it before the dinosaurs existed or after?

Have you listened to Ray's latest Conference audio?

Arc
 

dominian:
Guys thanks for your reply's but your not answering my question.  If i am to believe that Adam and Eve were the first man that God created, and it was becuase of their disobedience that sin entered the world.  And also that death is a consequence of sin.  How could the dinosaurs have expirenced the consequences of man's sin millions of years prior to them even exisiting? 
If death is the consequence of our sin.  Death has to follow sin not proceed it.

If we are saying that man was already dying even before they sinned (Gen2:17) then death was not a consequence of their sin.  But Romans 6:23 says the wages of sin is death.

Craig:
Drop it folks.  You are asking questions that nobody can answer.  We can all have our ideas but it is speculation, nowhere are there 100 scriptures to back up our opinions on the matter. 

Craig

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