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James 5 & Praying by God's Rules

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Ninny:
Marques and Brenda I see what you're saying. I think that we can sit quietly before God, but our thoughts are not easily quieted. I know when Grayson (my grand son)was in the hospital and the whole time he was going through his tumor there were times when I could not put into words the feelings that were in my heart. I couldn't pray anything very coherent at the beginning and that is when I know that the Spirit of God was doing what I couldn't do. The thoughts were there, my mind couldn't be quiet, but physically I was quiet. So we know that the Spirit of God in us does conveys to God our prayers that can't be said out loud.

I don't know if this follows that thought or not, but I think that is what was going on with me.
Kathy :)

OBrenda:
It is hard to explain, but I think Kathy understands...it's CERTIANLY not an everyday prayer for every day concerns!

When we are in that place when we can't find words to physically speak, but inside our full attention is crying out and travailing and groaning reaching out to God for help, but unable to ask for a specific outcome.  The only thing coherent is our need for God!   We know and recognize that the situations is completely out of our hands, and we are powerless to even ask for our desire! 

I guess I've found my prayer life changing, more having my attention on God, but not asking for a desired outcome.  Submitting to his will. Coming out of the "Word of Faith" movement where we spoke what we wanted and had to have faith, and Sugar Daddy God would have his arm bent to answer us.  Now I really don't know what to say in prayer.  I'm wondering if I've grown in trust, or I'm depressed? ::)  ;D

Your Kooky Sister,
Brenda

Jackie Lee:
Hi Brenda I am like you on prayer now that I don't ask for him to do my will but his will I know it will be taken care of.

Has anyone had the sudden desire to stop praying for someone?
I have, but not sure if I am tired or just need to stop praying for that person and their particular problem. ???

Marlene:
Hello, Last night , I was reading in Matthew Chapter 6  it has alot to say about prayer including the manner that we should pray in. It is a guidline. Like Ray talks about Jesus prayed on the cross, Father Forgiven Them. The them being the whole world.

I  like Matt. 6 verse 7 But when ye pray , use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do for they think that they shall be heard for their much  speaking.
verse 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

I really thought about those verses last night. We really have to trust him and let go of trying to control. We, cannot control him that is for  sure. He knows, what we need and what is best for us. Now, the trusting him. I also, believe to pray for someone else is unselfish. They, may just feel comforted to know that we care for them. I just want to come to the place where I know that whatever he decides is for my best. Since, coming here and learning his truths I ask for his will for me. I sometimes think up something like I wonder if God laughs. Ray even has an article that speaks of that. Ray, mentions that he talks things over with him about spiritual things. I believe spiritual things are what we should ask for. Spiritual things are lasting. 

I think it is awesome that the Spirit speaks for us when we do not know how too.  Just some thoughts I wanted to share.

In His Love Marlene

winner08:
In a certain scripture it is said that whatever you ask in my name it shall be given. Another scripture says ask and you shall recieve, seek and you shall find and knock and the door shall be opened. But in each of theses scriptures there is no mention of these things must be in Gods Will or it will not happen. Now in other scriptures it is said that Gods will is always done. So when people who are not in our family read these scriptures they take it for what it says but when they pray and their prayers do not get ansewered in their favor they don't understand why. They fail to understand what we understand. That we must pray that God's will is done and not ours. Then all of our prayers are always ansewered in our favor. Now if they have a scripture that says ask in My Name and if it is in My Will, It will be done. One has to search scripture for the (Whole truth) for why their prayer are ansewered or not. When a friend of mind was asked why her prayers was not ansewered she could not give an ansewer. She said maby I didn;t pray hard enough, mabay I sined and didn't repent therefore God did not ansewer. Maby I had hate in my heart and God did not ansewer. She had every excuse why her pray was not ansewered. Every reason why except for the real reason why. When I told her why her prayer was not ansewered in her favor, she of couse did not believe me. She said BULL!! If one prayers hard enough and had faith then ones prayers are always ansewerd. Well that left me with one question to her. Why then was your pray not ansewered. She had nothing for me, nothing but, as she said "BULL"!!  So once again I told her what I learned from Rays paper and I said to her try this for a week. In every prayer you pray at the end of your prayer say" not my will be done, but your will be done" I promise you that your prayer will be ansewered. Well a week past and she said nothing I prayed for was ansewered. I said are you sure. Yes she said. I said at the end of the prayer did you say what I told you to say(not my will but your will be done)? She said yes. Isaid then everything you prayed for was ansewered. NO! it was not. So I explained it real carefully to her and I seen the light go on in her head. OH YEA I SEE. I said your will be done not mine. She said Gods Will is always done, I said yep. Always done. She had a light bulb moment. It was great to see that. I could see truth in her eys it was great. I just though I share this story with yall. thanks.

Darren

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