Those Emails to Ray again!

[Ninny]

Oh my goodness! I realize what Ray has said so many times is true! They accuse him of blasphemy, but give no scripture to back it up! Those two emails posted are just perfect examples! Nothing of substance just accusations and name-calling! No scripture whatever!
Craig, tell Ray he must be doing something right!
No blasphemy here!!
Kathy

[Carlos31]

lol, somebody like 5 min ago wrote in a forum that i was blaspheming also, he accused me of polytheism.

which is false.

[Ninny]

Carlos,
You need to run away from that place! It sounds scary!  Of course I'm a big scaredy cat! I don't like to get beat up!
Kathy

[Carlos31]

well its a christian forum where there is a lot of people, from ALL [Christian] religions.
even some atheist.

I told him, nowhere did I say there was more than one God, but that he is giving false witness

[Jackie Lee]

Christian Forums is mostly opinions not based on scriptures.
I gave up on that place a couple years back.
I am seeking truth now so...

[Marlene]

I second, that Jackie!!!!!!!

[Dave in Tenn]

I've taken a couple of short strolls through the vast desert of Christian blogland.  They just made me want to run screaming for 'home'.    

[Ninny]

You guys are so right! Some things you just don't need. I know that especially when you first come to know Christ you want to get as much exposure as you can because you feel you can be fed anywhere Christians meet. This is not always the case we should always remember that we are to shake the dust from our shoes and head on out of some places. God will deal with whom He will. We all sort of "stumbled" on to BT or should I say we were "tripped" by God and fell in here!! We have to be careful and look at things a little cynically I guess. You know you just can't believe everything you see these days. that's why Ray stresses to READ ALL the WORDS! know what the scripture says, I have never seen anything that he has written that says "take my word for it" We can pretty well take his word for it because he offers a plethora of evidence and scripture to back up what he teaches. Not like so many churches, denominations, religions or whatever that make a whole doctrine on one verse of scripture!

IITimothy2:15
Kathy

[Carlos31]

lol how did you know that I ended up in BT in accident? lol

I saw an advertising somewhere.

when i was bibletruths.com the first thing I though was "haha, yeah right, bibletruths? it should be biblelies"

then I entered and started reading, since it was against Christianity i rejected the teachings.

then, I went back to BT, some other day, because there was curiosity in me, I had a feeling that I just had to read some more.

then I started believing, one day God scared me, REALLY BAD, I felt his presence so Strong, that I thought i was going to die, in any half o a second. I was far from converted, I watched porn, and many other things that are wrong, God did this so I would know he is Real, that my life is in his hands, and to think what am doing.

[Ninny]

Carlos,
I am glad to know there is curiosity in you! It helps you find the truths of God! We have a saying here in America it is, "curiosity killed the cat" so be careful that your curiosity doesn't lead you off into a dangerous place
You question things and you should. study the scriptures and ask questions. If you really have a problem with anything pray and then ask for help here. We sometimes forget that people who are not really that fluent in English have problems understanding what we are trying to say. So keep asking questions and keep going to God for your answers. Try to understand that some of us may have trouble understanding exactly what you are trying to say some of the time, but if we are all patient and wait on the Lord we will get it!
Love in Christ,
Kathy

[aqrinc]

Hi Carlos31,

Nice to see you are really reading Scripture and Ray's writings more. Most of the questions you
have had are answered with a fast read of BT. To get the deeper Spiritual Answers takes a lot
more in-depth reading, studying, Praying and Repenting. After Paul was struck down on the road
to Damascus, it took many years for Him to learn and be the Great Champion for us the gentiles.

Paul had to unlearn all his lawkeeping (rightness) to be able to Teach Jesus Christ's Righteousness
Through GOD"S GRACE And FAITH.

We; after being dragged, booted or escaped from Babylon (Churchianity) need to unlearn all the
unscriptural things we were quite happy to trust and do while condemning other lost ones to hell.

So i say Brother, keep on Praying learning and studying. It is good that we learn well before we take
on the Powers and Principalities of this Age. They have been well schooled for thousands and maybe
millions of years to prepare for The Great Day.

Below are a few Scriptures that help me to know why i am here now.

Ephesians 6:12:
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the
rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Colossians 1:16:
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether
they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Colossians 2:8-11
8-Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the
rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

9-For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

10-And you are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11-In whom also you are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of
the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Peace Love Patience Knowledge,

george.

[jennie]

It is sad to know that Mr. Ray is still getting hateful e-mails when he is doing poorly. I just don't know when we, human beings became judge and jury. We need to read and pray and read somemore for clarity. I pray that I can do this very thing this coming year. I found my new church out walking my dog the other day. We live in the hills and woods. I came upon a clearing where a young buck was grazing. He just stood there and looked at me and went back to grazing. I could hear the sound of rushing water from a creek and decided that would be my new church! Prettier to me than a big ole fancy building. Much love to all and prayers to all this holiday season, Jennie

[daywalker]

Oh my goodness! I realize what Ray has said so many times is true! They accuse him of blasphemy, but give no scripture to back it up! Those two emails posted are just perfect examples! Nothing of substance just accusations and name-calling! No scripture whatever!
Craig, tell Ray he must be doing something right!
No blasphemy here!!
Kathy

It's remarkable to me, how Christians read the Scriptures of Jesus and how he lived his life; how He treated the 'sinners' around him vs. how He treated the Pharisees, Sadducees and Priests, and not realize that they do the same things that Jesus often criticized!

Even when I was still in Babylon, I hated all the gossip and hypocrisy that went on in Sunday School! They were so quick to tear others down, and stick their noses up. They acted so Superior, and it even made me feel inferior, because I was [and still am] pretty good at sinning... I just wanted to know how to stop sinning, yet all we did talk about 'how great we are', it was really annoying!


NOW, all I can do is be merciful and forgive them, and pray that God will open their hearts and minds, and allow them to see their hypocrisy, and thank God that He has opened my heart and mind, and continue to grow and develop into the person God has predestined me to be.


Slowly Being Humbled,

- Daywalker

[jennie]

I think I have told some of you about sunday School before but for those I haven't here goes! When we were kids, we didn't have much. Mama made our clothes from scraps people would give her and food wasn't always there. One thing Mama did though was take us to church and make sure we had our "offering" . Me and my brother each had a dime to put in and Mama put in a quarter. One Sunday the teacher stopped in the middle of taking up the collection and started fussing at my Mama for just giving a quarter. Told her she should be ashamed to rob God that way and mock God by giving that. It broke her heart and he made her cry. That is hypocrisy I think. She did the best she could and even gave sacrificially. Makes me sad inside to even think of it.

[daywalker]

I think I have told some of you about sunday School before but for those I haven't here goes! When we were kids, we didn't have much. Mama made our clothes from scraps people would give her and food wasn't always there. One thing Mama did though was take us to church and make sure we had our "offering" . Me and my brother each had a dime to put in and Mama put in a quarter. One Sunday the teacher stopped in the middle of taking up the collection and started fussing at my Mama for just giving a quarter. Told her she should be ashamed to rob God that way and mock God by giving that. It broke her heart and he made her cry. That is hypocrisy I think. She did the best she could and even gave sacrificially. Makes me sad inside to even think of it.

Wow! I'm sorry to hear about that. It's amazing how low they will go...


Ironically, several months ago when I first read Ray's paper on Tithing, and he introduced I Timothy 5:8, I was totally shocked!! I had never read this verse:

"If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has DENIED the faith and is WORSE than an unbeliever."


Talk about a COMPLETE 180 DEGREE TURN from what the Church teaches! I mean, you can't get anymore REVERSE than that!

Praise God that He has revealed the Truth to us, the one that brings us comfort, not fear!


Over & Out,

Daywalker