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Holy Spirit - whom or which?
Kat:
Just found this email and thought it might help in this discussion.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3514.0.html ---
Jesus is the Personification of the Holy Spirit (His SPIRIT FATHER living IN Him). Therefore, the Person Jesus is the "He and the Him," not the Spirit of God in Him. God the Father OWNS, if you will, His OWN Spirit. It belongs TO Him. IT is HIS. The Holy Spirit DOES NOT OWN GOD THE FATHER. Can you see and understand that? God HAS a spirit. The Holy Spirit DOES NOT HAVE A GOD, therefore, it is an IT, and not a HE or a HIM.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Vangie:
Looks like you're right on Eirik - it's an IT--so "which" would be the more appropriate word. I agree that "whom" does seem to confuse the matter.
Sincerely,
Vangie
Ninny:
You know Eirik, most of the people wouldn't even think of that. People here (in the U.S.) who speak English as their only language or first language don't always stop to think of the usage of the word! They just say what is more comfortable! Most people think the Holy Spirit is a person anyway, so those things don't even enter their mind! Now when you refer to the H.S. as an IT they might have something to say about it! >:( :D
Some of us are kind of sloppy with our English usage! (I am included in the sloppy usage people! I do try to use words correctly when it would really alter the meaning of what I want to say! :D) We do interchange those words like: which, who, that, lie, lay, me and I! Really, :) people say things like, "He gave it to you and I" "I will lay down for awhile." ::) So people don't really care how a word is used so much, that's how we got into this shape in the first place, just trusting that the translators knew all the right words! :o
I am so glad that Ray showed us that words DO count!
Thanks for bringing that up!
Kathy :)
judith collier:
Another thought (someone told me once that I would be better off if I didn't think)(chuckle) Anyway, some Christians talk of the Trinity as God manifesting Himself in 3 distinct ways. Well, let me tell you, do not tell most theologians this as they have a slight fit. I know the Catholic Church does! They hold to 3 distinct Persons.
Dave in Tenn:
Step One: Replace simple truth with complicated error.
Step Two: Attempt to correct error with different error.
Step Three: Kill and cast into Hell those who don't believe the 'right' error.
Step Four: Marginalize, misunderstand, or persecute those with simple Truth.
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