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winner08:
I remember several months ago before I was dragged to  :D :D a friend and I were having a talk about the Lord. She was telling me her story and how good God is and I was telling her how I felt towards God. I was very angry at him and I didn't understand Him. My biggest problem with God was if He is so good why are children born with certain diseases or why do children get hurt by adults in all sort of ways. The children suffering was my biggest complaint. We went round and round about this and my feelings did not change. I didn't believe in a hell where God would send you if you was not born again so that was not a problem. I didn't believe in an immortal soul. So those were not a problem. It was all about the children. Well after I was introduce to  and Ray and his papers. I read so much so fast I couldn't get enough. I had to read them again, this time slower. Anyways I came to understand alot but I still don't understand why the children have to suffer. I still see no purpose. But I'm not angry about it anymore. I still upsets me some I most be truthfull. But not angry. I take it as it is something I just have to believe that it will be all for the good. I see how far I have come in faith and how much further I have to go. Many months ago I would not have cared one way or the other when that women said anybody can be the way the truth and the life but the other day when she said it, it bothered me. I am progressing slowly but I have along way to go. I think of this as a journey. A life journey.

Darren

Brian:
The book of Job is perhaps the oldest book in the Bible. No one knows who wrote it. Some scholars think Moses may have written it, while some date it as late as the time of Solomon, But one thing is certain: the Holy Spirit gave this book to us. It is a very profound book, and in many ways it touches upon certain themes more deeply than any other book of the Bible. It is also a very beautiful book, written in majestic, glorious language.

Job was a real man, not a mythological figure. He is mentioned by Ezekiel and classified as one of the three great men of the Old Testament, along with Noah and Daniel (Eze_14:14, Eze_14:20). In the New Testament, James mentions Job, referring to his patience and steadfast endurance (Jas_5:11).

According to the opening part of the book, Job lived in the land of Uz, and he was probably one of the most prominent citizens of that land. He was a contemporary of Abraham, most likely, so this book goes back to the very beginning of biblical history.

The book is a kind of epic poem, very much like the Iliad and the Odyssey, by Homer. Some think it was presented at times as a drama in which actors recited the parts of the different characters in the book. Most of the book is poetry, but it begins and ends with a prose prologue and epilogue, which are like program notes that are given to the audience in this drama.

This book will help us more than any other book in the Bible to catch a glimpse of the greatness and majesty of God. We will see what we desperately need to see that God is not just another man, great in power and authority, whom we call, influence, and command. God is not a heavenly bellboy, ready to run at our command. No, God is in charge, and He will always be in charge. If we are going to deal realistically with life, this is the way we must see Him.

We sometimes hear that this book of Job is the record of a great battleground between God and Satan and that Job is caught in between. Though there are aspects of this in the book, is this not a strange war, in which one side must get permission from the other before it attacks? What kind of battle is that?

Can you imagine a German commander during World War II stepping up to General Patton, saluting him, and saying, "Here, General, we would like permission to bomb your troops, destroy your tanks, and wreck all your plans!" I'm sure General Patton's reply would have been unprintable and unrepeatable!

And yet that is the situation in this book of Job. Satan comes to God and asks permission to do something against Job. Now that is not a battle; it is not warfare; it is a test. That is what we need to see. Job's faith is the subject of a very rigorous test. Satan is the one who brings it about, but God permits it.

You may be thinking, "I wonder what's going on behind the scenes about me? I wonder what Satan is saying about me now and if he's asking permission to get me!" If that is what you are thinking, my advice is, "Do not worry; live one day at a time." For the thing this book tells us is that if Satan had his way, every one of us would always be in this kind of difficulty. Satan would tear us apart all the time if he could--not because he is angry with us but because he wants to get at God, whom we serve. But God's protecting hand has been over us. If we can sit here in any degree of peace and enjoyment, it is because the hand of God has been like a hedge about us, protecting us and giving us great and wonderful things. Therefore, the attitude of every human heart ought to be, "Thank God for what I've got! Thank God for where I am now. What the future may hold, only He knows."

And if it holds some kind of testing like this, it is only because, as Paul has reminded us in 1 Corinthians, "He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear" (1 Corinthians 10:13).

He knows what you can bear, and He will not put you to the test so severely that it will destroy your faith. But there are implications in every test that go far beyond the superficial aspects of the situation. That is what we need to remember. And as this remarkable book unfolds, we will see some of the things that God brought to the attention of Job.

    Lord, thank You that You have placed a hedge about me and that with every test comes the strength to endure.

Dennis Vogel:
Brian,

This text about Job was lifted from another site which we do not allow.

Please do not do this any more.

Dennis

Marlene:
Darren, I too always wondered why Children have to suffer. But, I have seen many suffer through there parents. Abuse and all sorts of things. I often wonder if many do those things because they were treated that way as children. Yes, I know it is all in the plan of God. He is in charge. If, he was not in charge the world would be pure evil. Life is a journey. I know, I have seen things in my latter years that you barely heard of when I was a child. Goes to show the world waxes worse and worse.

Jesus is our Rock. He leads us to truth, out of this world of darkness. I am just so blessed to have found truths here and friends here on this forum.

In His Love,
Marlene

OBrenda:
Hi Darren,

Children suffering....That is very hard to reconcile in our minds!

As the world believes & teaches....this brief life span in the flesh is all there is to either enter into heaven or enter into Hell.  That's why they came up with the theory of free will.  They can't explain a loving God and the unfairness all around them.  So anything "Bad" that happens is because we {"free will"} did something wrong, or didn't have enough faith to make it happen to turn out for Good.

A deal breaker for me of that lie...was when someone "God-Fearing" would believe God for a safe delivery of their unborn child,...and that child would die.  And then you see people with no faith in any God...abusing children and popping them out like jiffy pop popcorn?

Their theology leaves the "Christian" woman's lack of faith....a punishment and shame to her, because she had the free will and power through Her Faith...to have brought about a different out come.

Praise God this life here, is not the end of God's plan for us.
Glory in that we have NO control to direct our steps.

1 Corinthians 2:9
But as it is written, "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him."

And we know...someday ALL shall kneel & bow and confess Jesus is Lord....They will Love and worship him....

God Bless Ray & his work to open Eyes to the Truth!

Brenda

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