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Abraham & Sarah
Ninny:
Rodger, I have to second your mama mia! Ha! This is all so strange, puzzling and weird! (redundancy?) ;D
Carlos, my dear you are having trouble seeing the forest for the trees!
I think we can safely say that no matter what people may or may not have done in the past-- God doesn't want you to marry your sister! :D
Kathy :)
iris:
Good post Joe!
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on December 16, 2008, 09:57:30 AM ---Hmmmmm.....
Eve came out of Adam, so Adam must be Eve's mother too, right?
Peace,
Joe
--- End quote ---
I'll third Rodger's mama mia on the second post! ;D
Beloved:
;D Mamma Mia is a really stupid movie ;D
First to address Joe, Abraham and Sarah are spritually significant couple they were the ones through which God established his "covenant of the people".
They were the start of something new...as well as being the lineage to Christ
Adam and Eve were the beginning, God was their parent. Adam and Eve were not sister or brother because they did not exactly come out of one parent.
They were nearly genetically identical. Eve was the genetic template of Adam. Adam was not exactly a mother either. Remember that Eve too was physically assembled by God not Adam. It was not Adam's his rib but his genetic makeup that God used.
In the physical, God must have given some exceptional genes to these two people...look how long they lived back then . Adam lived 930 years his offspring Methulsela reached the max of 969
Now right before the flood God declared
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years
God said...and in time
Abraham was the 18th generation he only lived 175 years. Isaac lived for 180 yrs and he was the 19th generation and Jacob lived for 147 yrs and he was the 20th generation. After that there was a 400 yr void.......no history of the generations
It took the 400 period in Eygpt for this to come to pass...and look who finally fulfilled the word
Deu 34:7 And Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.
The reason the laws of Moses spoke against consanquity was because by that time their genes had developed mutations....they started having recessive genes creep in. The problem with recessive genes is they often can be carried as a single gene without too much problem, but when you get a double dose then you have many conditions develop, some which are lethal....hemophilia, mental diseases etc..
Adam and Eve were idential , if they possessed only dominant genes. Then they and their offspring , the next 20 generations or so would have not suffered from any of these disorders.
from wikipedia
The offspring of consanguinous relationships are at greater risk of certain genetic disorders. Autosomal recessive disorders occur in individuals who are homozygous for a particular recessive gene mutation. This means that they carry two copies (alleles) of the same gene. Except in certain rare circumstances (new mutations or uniparental disomy) both parents of an individual with such a disorder will be carriers of the gene.
Such carriers are not affected and will not display any signs that they are carriers, and so may be unaware that they carry the mutated gene. As relatives share a proportion of their genes, it is much more likely that related parents will be carriers of an autosomal recessive gene, and therefore their children are at a higher risk of an autosomal recessive disorder.
The extent to which the risk increases depends on the degree of genetic relationship between the parents; so for incestuous relationships where the parents share 1/2 of their DNA the risk is great, but for relationships between second cousins where the parents only share 1/32 of their DNA the risk is less (although still greater than the general population).[5]
We have all seen that some people especially royalty and religious groups , often ignore the law because of their desire to retain power and money within their own bloodlines and families. They have all paid the price for this.
here is a site that shows some Eygptian recessive gene lines.
http://www.jeans4genes.org/files/gc_egypt_samya.doc
Getting back to the meat of the matter, all these things being discussed are of the flesh. understand that flesh profith nothing
Take the word brethern ...adelphos = a + womb. We are all of one body and one mind....there are no longer genes (genetic threads) to contend with.... There will be no bond nor free , jew nor gentile, male ror female, etc
You are right Joe, , as the prophets and apostles etc were, we are all filty threads, no man will be able to boast about anything.
I see the history of all mankind as a thread that will be re-weaved into something wondrous. We all will be mightly amazed by what God has done and therefore all the Glory will be His.
beloved
Ninny:
Very impressive, Beloved!! :D
It stands to reason that Adam and Eve were nearly genetically identical, after they were like you said "assembled by God" out of the same genetic material. I love it!
Amen, sister!! :D
Kathy :)
charrie:
Here's a thought
What come first "the egg or the chicken"? The chicken of course,
Does not man hold the sperm of creation of like mankind? So wouldn't it have been appropriate for Father to have, in His infinite wisdom, Adam give "birth" to Eve. Not that this would make Eve Adam's child or anything like that, but the beginning of passing on the lineage. From Father came Adam from Adam came Eve from Adam and Eve came Cain and Abel from, etc......
We now, of course, that Father was first. But in reference to man, the chicken(Adam) came first...the egg must come from a "sperm"
Just my thoughts.
Charrie :-*
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