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Jackie Lee:

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--- Quote from: Jackie Lee on December 22, 2008, 03:15:17 PM ---
Ecclesiastes 7:1
1 A good name is better than fine perfume,
and the day of death better than the day of birth.


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Hi again Jackie Lee,

I kept thinking about this verse and although it is quite possible Solomon thought of only the natural life the Spirit as it guided his words was telling later generations that this "day of death" that is 'better' than being born (physically) is the day we begin dying to self and picking up our own cross as we begin the journey in following our Lord.

Just another thought I wanted to add.

Peace,

Joe

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Now that seems to agree with me completely, I had not thought of that but...Yes  :)

hillsbororiver:
Hi George & Jackie,

If we think about all those who have been born through all the years since creation and the very few who are remembered for some act of selflessness or heroism or incredible inventions that pertain to this world and this life. There have indeed been many accomplishments through history but in relation to how many have been born very few are remembered long after they pass away. This would be the physical or natural fulfillment of what Solomon wrote.

I don't think he (Solomon) really had an insight as to what the spiritual fulfillment of this might be, of course I could be totally wrong here but I don't know that there was anyone who really thought the Messiah would not be coming in a blaze of earthly glory to set up natural, physical Israel as the preeminant Kingdom of this world, even though they had the scriptures stating otherwise.

We see that there were many (Spirit led) heros in the Old Testament under the Old Covenant up to John the Baptist but what did our Lord say about him?

Mat 11:11  Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

How could this be?

Heb 11:39  And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

It has nothing to do with merit, no man has earned it, but everything to do with the perfect life, sacrificial death and resurrection of our Lord and the path that was opened to those who follow(ed) Him.

I think once again the miracle that is the scriptures has proven to be true on multiple levels.  ;)

Peace,

Joe

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