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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Fester on December 27, 2008, 10:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: aqr on December 27, 2008, 10:07:45 PM ---Respectfully we can agree to disagree on this topic until i can understand better.
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Yes we can.
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Matt. 10:34-39 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
1 Thess 5:21-23 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Tim 3:12-13 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Fester, I know it is difficult (as I have a wife and 2 girls who attend church weekly), but we cannot 'agree to disagree' with scriptures. George was not proving his personal opinion, he was only commenting on what the scriptures tell us.
You stated that we should think of our loved ones as well...what about Christ? Is He not a 'loved one'?
Perhaps you could live by example by staying home and continue to worship in spirit & truth...then eventually, your family will come TO YOU and wonder about your behavior. Just a suggestion, and not trying to change your life overnight, but pointing to the spiritual truth of the matter.
Hope this helps,
Marques
Fester:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on December 28, 2008, 06:42:23 AM ---
Fester, I know it is difficult (as I have a wife and 2 girls who attend church weekly), but we cannot 'agree to disagree' with scriptures. George was not proving his personal opinion, he was only commenting on what the scriptures tell us.
You stated that we should think of our loved ones as well...what about Christ? Is He not a 'loved one'?
Perhaps you could live by example by staying home and continue to worship in spirit & truth...then eventually, your family will come TO YOU and wonder about your behavior. Just a suggestion, and not trying to change your life overnight, but pointing to the spiritual truth of the matter.
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Yes George was providing his opinion based on his interpretation and personal applications of the scriptures. Just as you have too. George and I agree to disagree on the application of these scriptures to our lives and not on the scriptures themselves. Neither of us disagree with the scriptures. I interpret all the scriptures he lists and the ones you list in a spiritual manner. Perhaps you can live your life by the 'physical' and continue to stay home and I will live mine by 'spiritual' interpretations of the scriptures in the manner God is leading me. Just a suggestion, and you will never change my life, only God and His spiritual truths will.
Your questions on the love of Christ are demeaning and not worthy of a reply.
WhoAmI:
I ran into a guy the other day at the store who knows me from a church I visited in the past. He told me I was a "slacker" because I don't go to church anymore. It don't matter where you go, on here or anywhere, your gonna catch crap from people. We are the church but there is no such thing as a peaceful and loving assembly. Humans are more interested in being right and pushing their agenda than living right and focusing on self. So sad....we are.
Fester:
--- Quote from: WhoAmI on December 28, 2008, 04:07:15 PM ---Humans are more interested in being right and pushing their agenda than living right and focusing on self. So sad....we are.
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I concur.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Fester on December 28, 2008, 02:46:49 PM ---Yes George was providing his opinion based on his interpretation and personal applications of the scriptures. Just as you have too. George and I agree to disagree on the application of these scriptures to our lives and not on the scriptures themselves. Neither of us disagree with the scriptures. I interpret all the scriptures he lists and the ones you list in a spiritual manner. Perhaps you can live your life by the 'physical' and continue to stay home and I will live mine by 'spiritual' interpretations of the scriptures in the manner God is leading me. Just a suggestion, and you will never change my life, only God and His spiritual truths will.
Your questions on the love of Christ are demeaning and not worthy of a reply.
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Fester,
I wasn't trying to be demeaning...I was only responding to your comment where you stated 'we cannot just think of ourselves all the time'.
Matt. 8:21-22 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Was Christ telling this disciple to only think of himself? Placing the will of the Father above loved ones is an admirable quality...not a selfish one. Could this disciple obeyed this commandment by physically going to the bury his father but spiritually having his heart elsewhere? Was Christ telling us to come out of Babylon in our heart but we could stay physically? Are there any commandments that one could obey spiritually and not physically?
I am not interested in 'being right' or pushing an agenda...it is only to help all with understanding the scriptures and what our Lord commands. The same way many members help me and others with their comments and discussions. Hope this helps with whoever is seeking understanding...and those who are not seeking, I guess it is of no benefit for them.
Marques
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