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aqrinc:
Amen, Phil3:10,
It Is (He Jesus Christ) in Us Doing The Works (Spiritual Conversion); not us doing works (physical things)
in order to please Him.
Rotherham: Romans 8:28:
We know, further, that, unto them who love God, God causeth all things to work together
for good,—unto them who, according to purpose, are such as he hath called;
george. :)
cjwood:
PRAISE be to GOD ALMIGHTY!!! i have become completely sated sitting here dining at this awesome table of scrumptious Spiritual food which is laid out in these posts. my spirit sings as i read His Truths sounding out like a bell ringing for all who He has given ears to hear and eyes to see.
thanks be to God. for He gives the increase.
claudia
judith collier:
CJWood, you said something that helped me more than the others. It is like dining here, we are partaking of the life and death of Christ or one could say the body and blood. I do hate to get that mind set though that so very much suffering is NECCESSARY. Didn't Jesus say "what you believe in your heart, then so it will be" I do not want to attract more suffering than is predestined for me because I think I have to suffer to gain Christ.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: judith collier on January 04, 2009, 03:44:03 PM ---CJWood, you said something that helped me more than the others. It is like dining here, we are partaking of the life and death of Christ or one could say the body and blood. I do hate to get that mind set though that so very much suffering is NECCESSARY. Didn't Jesus say "what you believe in your heart, then so it will be" I do not want to attract more suffering than is predestined for me because I think I have to suffer to gain Christ.
--- End quote ---
Hello Judith,
No need to worry about that last point for no one can attract more or less that what they are predestined to receive.
Acts 9:15-16 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
1 Tim 1:15-16 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Rom 8:28-30 Now we are aware that God is working all together for the good of those who are loving God, who are called according to the purpose that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren. Now whom He designates beforehand, these He calls also, and whom He calls, these He justifies also; now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also
Gal 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.
James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
As Paul suffered many for Christ's sake and was for a pattern to all who are called and chosen, we too must suffer much for His name's sake. But these trials and tribulations cannot compare to the wonderful rewards and spiritual gifts in store for us all.
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Marques
Linny:
Yes Judith,
As Marques posted, Heb 12:11 "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby."
I have to say that we have been through the most horrific trials this year and I count them all a blessing. They weren't enjoyable at the time but to come out victoriously in Christ and with greater faith and courage and patience, all I can say is, "Aaaahhhhhh."
I wouldn't change a thing! I wouldn't take away a second of my tribulation. I wouldn't trade anything for the knowledge and truth and faith that I have been blessed with through it.
I count it a blessing !
Blessings, Lin
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