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David:
Well, secular scientists that discovered the universe to be approx 16 billion years old don't study the scriptures either, but they are right.
The ancient Hebrew calenders have nothing to do with their discovery. Their discovery centers around the star in the nativity story.
The modern Roman calender was invented in the 6th century, with some glaring mistakes. The Catholic Monk given the task of creating this calender used the Bible and the traditional birthday of Christ as a guide to calculating the calender. The problems with it are that Augustus reigned with a different name for at least 4 years, and the year zero was omitted. The calender went from 1BC to 1AD with no year zero. These mistakes put Christs birthday between 4-6 years BC, rather than 1AD. We know from historic texts that Herod died in 4 BC.
What the scientists looked for was a significant astronomical event around that time. They found that Chinese, Indian and Babylonian (civilizations on that latitude) texts from that time reported an unusually bright star event appearing as though moving westward (towards Jerusalem) and then stopping for several days before disappearing. The texts all dated to between 6-4 BC. The Magi or wise men are thought by most historians to be Babylonian astrologers that looked to the stars for affirmation of prophetic texts from the Hebrew scriptures, and other texts that they studdied.
Traditional theories about the nativity star have usually centered around the appearance of a commet. The trouble with that theory is that the Babylonian astrologers always interpreted the appearance of a commet as foretelling death and destruction, not the birth of a King or Savior.
The computers that the scientists used can map the movement of stars and plannets and predict where they will appear in our skies with amazing accuracy, they can also tell where they would have been in the past, and they can pinpoint it down to the day.
None of the constellations that ancient astrologers observed had a significant enough event to justify far off civilizations writing about them. However there was one planetary event that did, and it occurred at exactly the time Christ is thought to have been born.
Very rarely, the planets Jupiter and Venus (the King and Mother planets according to astrologers) overlap or eclipse and when the Sun reflects off them they appear so bright as to almost make the night sky here on earth look like day. This only happens once every few thousand years, and no one alive today will witness it.
It did occur in 6 BC, and using the Roman calender, it started around September, and culminated in it stopping on a latitude trajectory that would have placed it right over the region of Bethlehem at its brightest, right around the end of December, December 25th 6 BC to be precise.
Given the mistakes in the modern calendar, this date fits perfectly with the Biblical account. We know that not long after Christs birth, Joseph fled with Him and Mary to Egypt unitl the death of Herod in 4 BC.
They also found evidence that this date was attributed to Christs birthday before Constantine.
I see no reason to doubt the technology used to track the stars and plannets, scientists are not stupid. It would seem an amazing coincidense to me that this event occured according to scientists, was written about by other civilizations, is accounted in the Bible, and yet could have nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Maybe December the 25th is not such a pagan tradition afterall.
Beloved:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080202.html
David I am not exactly arguing about the timing ir the event...I just see it as His conception and you see it as His birth If He was conceived in Dec He was born in September. There is certainly enough leeway in the time. The event could have occurred but the real significance missed....
Bethlehem is close to Jersuslam. Now think about it Herod killed all the children under two to me that indicates that he did not know the exact birthdate, if he did then all he would had to do would be to look at the umbical cord. Even with the escape, the timing was perfect and protected the parents and their newborn.
If the Magi traveled it still would have taken them months to get there. So no one noticed this cosmic event there? I cannot imagine there was no astronomers in Judea then.
Also a conjuncture would not be seen exactly equally all over the world...slightly different angles of the planets orbits even on same latitude. Some circles even think it was the Shekanna Glory and not stars/planets. The shepards would have noticed this light too.
(Luk 2:8 ALT) And shepherds were in the same region staying in the fields and watching over their flock [during the] watches of the night.
(Luk 2:9 ALT) And look! An angel of the Lord stood over them, and [the] glory of the Lord shone around them, and they feared [with] a great fear.(Luk 2:10 ALT) And the angel said to them, "Stop being afraid! For listen! I bring to you* the Gospel of great joy, which will be to all people.
(Luk 2:11 ALT) "Because a Savior was born to you* today in the city of David, who is Christ [the] Lord!
I do not think the Universe was quiet....just that significance of the signs were not perceived by that generation.
beloved
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