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Music and Dancing
Mbwa:
Ninny:
"Well, dude it seems as though right from the start you have forgotten that Sunday worship and the majority of Christian customs was borrowed from heathenism!!"
Yes, but that doesn't necessarily make it okay, does it? ???
Jackie Lee: Thanks for the reply. I have read about that, but the Baptists say that we should no longer dance to the Lord as worship, and even then, the 'beats' were not the same as the pagan's, I think. Not to say they're right, they just worry me...
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on January 20, 2009, 07:27:09 PM ---Play everything in 3/4, or at least put the accents on the 1's and 3's. It's that back-beat that stirs up the heathen in you.
Also avoid synchopation...it's full of bad juju. If you want to keep people from the evils of dance, play prog rock. On second thought, trying to dance to 13/16 or something that swings from 9/8 to 5/4 would make the audience at least temporarily insane.
I might have a more serious answer for you later, I just wanted to lay the law down right now.
--- End quote ---
;D That reminds of a comment from this guy on youtube. I was watching the video for the Radiohead song 'Paranoid Android,' which has some parts in 7/8, and some changes in tempo and sonic texture, if you will. (pretty weird song). The guy said that the song made him depressed because it was hard to dance to. (I'm glad there's humor here, some people have this stereotypical vision of Christians not having any fun, always serious and gloomy.) And I do like prog, by the way. ;)
Ninny:
Ok Mbwa, you got me on that! I told you other people would have better answers!
George, 1 & 2 & 3?? Are you listening to Lawrence Welk?? ;D I'm waiting for the bubbles!! ;)
What's music without a back-beat, Dave?? No syncopation?? That would make "Jail House Rock" pretty boring, wouldn't it? :D What about Footloose?
Ok, I realize I am way out of my element here! All these weird time signatures :'( I only understand the simple ones so I shall bow out of this very technical discussion and I will sit back and learn! :o
What do you expect from someone who can only play the radio and the ukulele! ::)
Oh one more thing those hard-to-dance-to 13/16 or the 9/8 to 5/4 thing that might be a cool way freak out a room full of drunks!! ;D (do they really play music with Improper fractions?) ;D ;D ;)
shutting up.....
Kathy ;) :-*
aqrinc:
Ninny & mbwa,
The tempo may change but cadence is what you dance to either 1- 2-- 3--- or 1 - 2 -- 3 --- ???
or a variation with mix and move. 8) The other combinations are all based on 1 an 2 an 3. Talk about
freaking out; try it with a couple steel bottoms (not the shoes) and a bit of white lightening. :P
Oops; just realized that is what stirs up the heathen in Dave. ::)
george. ;D
Dave in Tenn:
OK...here's an ernest attempt at a serious answer, still delivered with a smile on my face (from picturing that guy with the 'dance' comment').
Some stuff--understanding, wisdom, discernment--comes with experience...experience with the Word of God and experience given by the Grace of God from the life we've led under His Sovereignty. That includes EVERYTHING--good and bad. There's scarecely a figure in the Scripture that doesn't give us SOME lesson in how NOT to live.
There isn't always a clear 'commandment' in scripture concerning every decision we're faced with in this life. That's by design! God is building character in us...conforming us to the image of His son. We're not there yet.
You don't seem like the kind of young man who is out every weekend shooting heroin in your eyeballs and shagging prostitutes. None of us want to be the 'cause' of you becoming that guy, I'm sure. But part of what builds the experience you need is taking some wrong steps, so we also don't want to be the ones to deny you that hard won (and most valuable) wisdom by laying down laws for you to follow--like your fundie friend, who I'm sure is hoping to keep you out of Hell. I know from your first post in this thread you already possess some wisdom in this area.
To me, the scripture that covers your life-experience (as I vaguely imagine it via the internet) doesn't have to do with music, dancing or anything related to that. It has to do with maturity in the faith. You're going to get to a point eventually when you don't need to consider all these things...you will KNOW what you need to do. I am pretty sure you're not there yet...otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question. There are issues for all of us that put us right there in the same boat with you. I have no doubt of that.
I typed all that long enough to decide that I am not going to give you 'an answer' until you answer some of mine. OK?
1. Forgetting what your friend said, what do YOU think about this oppurtunity? Is it a good one? Are there dangers involved in it--obvious and clear in your mind?
2. If you learned that what your Fundy friend says is true, would it change your life in any way?
3. If you learned what your Fundy friend said was hogwash, would it change your mind about music?
4. What do you believe the Spirit of God is 'influencing' you to do?
Try those on, if it suits you, and maybe 'we' will have a better handle on what 'wisdom' to offer you in return. After we do, assuming we can, Jesus is still Lord and you still have to decide. You'll decide according to the way God has already foreseen. No circumstance changes from what already exists.
Ninny:
Mbwa, Dave is onto something there isn't he? Yes, because when we refer back to your original post you were trying to understand what God was trying to tell you. Dave has given you some questions that you can ask yourself. Was the fundamentalist you listened to a friend of yours? I wondered if you maybe had been brought up that way. It does give us something to think about it all comes back to what I told you before you have to literally give it to God and wait for Him to give it back to you or not!
Good advice, Dave. I told him before we aren't going to spoon feed him, but we are willing to help him find the answers he needs. I now will let you help him, man-to-man! I think Mbwa, that you will benefit from what the men on this forum will have to say as they are mature and have walked the road that you are walking now, we all have to live and learn, that is basically what Dave has said. ;)
Praying for your greater understanding :D
Kathy ;)
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