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Ninny:
Thank you Jackie Lee. Yes Jessie Duplantis! I have heard him say "blab it and grab it" I have heard Creflo Dollar say "blab it and grab it", too. I used to watch TBN and man you hear TONS of stuff on there!! O my there are lots of strange things in this world! Ha!

Oh yeah Antaiwan, they are just so bold about the tithe, it doesn't matter what you give other than the tithe, they just insist on the tithe, people believe it because they use the verses that say "would you rob God?". I mean really, people are vulnerable when it comes to thinking they have to please God. The churches use every means possible to get your money!
Jesus did say:

Luk 6:38 be giving, and it shall be given to you: a measure ideal, squeezed down and shaken together and running over, shall they be giving into your bosom. For the same measure with which you are measuring will be measured to you again."  CLV

The KJV says it differently: Luk 6:38  Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Now do you see anything that says GOD will give it to you?? Nooo. It say MEN will do this! I guess they mean God will cause men to give you the blessing? That is where they get all this name it and claim it stuff, BUT if you don't pay tithes, it won't work!!
That's the way I see it!
Kathy :D

winner08:
I seen this  special on Oprah (don't ask) ::) ::) ::)  about this subject. I think it was said what you put out there comes back to you. Samething. Well I am a pessimistic person to begin with, this is something i am working on at all times. well most of the time. I thought I  would give it a try now this a a long time ago. it did not work for me. So I decided to do at least one good deed a day. Helping an older person get across the street. or getting something off the top shelf from the store they could not reach. things of this nature. I found this to be quite satisfying. Call it what you will. karma what goes around comes around, do on to others as you would have done on to you. It is better to give than receive. It works for me.

Ninny:
That  theory is different! That is the golden rule! Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! The other thing is YOU give to GOD and GOD gives back to YOU! This doesn't involve doing good to others. You are blessed when you do for others especially those who are NOT able to reciprocate! Giving to God just so that you will receive something in return isn't the same!
Kathy :D

aqrinc:


Well Stand back and duck. :-[

This morning i went to church :o no no not walked into church (online). RR Fred Price, i think
in Los Angeles; well i saw someone not Fred preaching or at least using the Bible to get out his
give to receive message. Amazing how he used the very same Scriptures we study and always
managed to stop on the brink of anything Spiritual. He used the parable of The Sower and the
Seed: Mat 13-3-9 all tied to sow seed= give money; reap= get your desires from God. Oh he
was also a seller of christian records and if only the church bought his records he could easily
sell more than a million (but he did not need much). ::)

What Perfidy, >:( my big question is; Are they truly deceived :-\ or; have they decided that
there is no God for them to give an account to. ???

The truly sad part was watching all the desperately hoping people sitting there and praying that
he was right. I was there once; you were there once and now; since we have been dragged out,
we can see how great the deception is.

Isaiah 66:4:
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears on them; because when I called, none
did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before my eyes, and chose that in
which I delighted not.

II Thessalonians 2:10:
And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love
of the truth, that they might be saved.

II Thessalonians 2:11:
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

george. :'(

jennie:
Carlos, I am sorry to hear of the earthquake you experience. I hope and pray all is well with your folks.

I have heard a bunch of preachers say "name it and claim it" right from behind a pulpit I never did agree with it specially when I would see them living in million dollar homes and driving high priced cars when people were in need.

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