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Kat:
Hi lovepeace,
The way I have come to look at this is that it is a great blessing to be brought into existence at all. Now as Alex was saying we all must first have this 'evil experience' to come to an understanding of what bad is, as a contrast to good. We need this contrast so that we will understand. First there is the physical carnality - darkness - sin, then comes spiritual - light - righteousness.
This is a wicked age - evil generation and all must partake in this. And man has done some of the most unspeakable things to one another, I think we all bear witness to just how low man can go. But God has let us know what is right, He has always expressed that wickedness is not good, even so.
Zec 7:8 And the word of the LORD came to Zechari'ah, saying,
v.9 "Thus says the LORD of hosts, Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy each to his brother,
v. 10 do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor; and let none of you devise evil against his brother in your heart."
v. 11 But they refused to hearken, and turned a stubborn shoulder, and stopped their ears that they might not hear.
Now I do understand your sympathy for those that suffer, I feel that too, but this world has to be this way. But you do realize that God has put a limit to the suffering any person will have to go through, because the body will take just so much and then it will die. God has great mercy for us and has determined just how much that we would have to suffer in this life. People are the ones that came up with hell and the notion of no end to suffering, now that is an evil idea indeed.
We have to hold on to the knowledge that this age and the suffering here is only for a limited duration and that all humanity will come to have truth and peace evenually.
1Co 2:6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
v. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
v. 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
v. 9 But as it is written:
"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello lovepeace
There are more insights regarding this important topic that you may glean out of the following thread : http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,9060.0.html
It is good that you admit that you do not understand. No one should lean on their own understanding. Truth can only be understood through the Spirit of Christ.
Arc
gmik:
Excellent thread-very helpful. Here is my puny 2c:
Stand back for a minute....think of the BILLIONS and BILLIONS of galaxies and probably universes....WHO is GOD?.....stand farther back.....who am I so puny and insignificant on this little bitty speck of a planet......HIS WAYS ARE WAY TOO FAR ABOVE us. TO BE included in HIS plan (at all) is awesome...beyond awesome.To be born is the blessing.
SOMEDAY, those that suffer will see it all and how it had to play out that way, those that suffer and those that are blessed and they will not be angry at God- they will bow down and worship HIM.
Keep your eyes fixed on that. NO ONE will wonder why they had 2 years or 70 given to them; or poverty or wealth, or sickness or health, whatever....we all will be so happy to be w/ HIM.
There is a bigger picture-focus on that.
judith collier:
Falconn003, that was a great post as well as the others. I liked your word OBLIGATIONS rather than my word RESPONSIBILITY. I think I have learned here that God is the ultimate ALPHA and OMEGA in circumstances. My childhood was so dysfunctional that I took upon myself ALL responsibility for years as if there were no God and just now learning to trust Him and His outcomes. Thanks, Judith
lovepeace:
thanks to all of you for helping me with this complication.
everyday i wish there was something i could to help these people, especially the children because they are so innocent and i do not believe they deserve to be put through this kind of suffering.
maybe God has these people suffer for some divine purpose and i trust that He knows what he is doing and He has a good reason for it. Maybe it is to show us that we are lucky to have what we have and not to take it for granted.
sometimes i feel like i take things for granted, but i know i am human and if God did not want us 2 do so He would not allow it to happen.
one day i hope i can do something to help these people, but for now, i guess the only thing i can do is pray for them.
thank you all for everything. it really did help me.
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