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Paul's contradiction of Jesus?
hillsbororiver:
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I'm an anarchist, as I believe Jesus was (and is)..
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Actually it was Barabbas who was the anarchist/terrorist.
--- Quote from: pinko on January 17, 2009, 10:04:43 PM ---
Jesus had nothing but utter disdain for the 'governing authorities' of his day..Matter of fact, he was actually executed for the crime of treason to Rome.. Remember he was brought before Pilate with the accusation that "We found this man perverting our nation, forbidding us to pay taxes to the emperor, and saying that he himself is the Messiah, a king." (Lk 23:1-2) None of which were denied...
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Mark 15
6Now at that feast he released unto them one prisoner, whomsoever they desired.
7And there was one named Barabbas, which lay bound with them that had made *insurrection with him, who had committed murder in the *insurrection.
8And the multitude crying aloud began to desire him to do as he had ever done unto them.
9But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
10For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
11But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
12And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
13And they cried out again, Crucify him.
14Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.
15And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.
*insurrection
G4714
στάσις
stasis
stas'-is
From the base of G2476; a standing (properly the act), that is, (by analogy) position (existence); by implication a popular uprising; figuratively controversy: - dissension, insurrection, X standing, uproar.
Peace,
Joe
pinko:
Well, Dave, you can rest easy..I'm no revolutionist! I'm saying I have no politics...I'm anti-political. I'm anti-man-rule. I'm pro-God-rule. I do not make distinctions between states, governments and rulers; I consider them all unnecessary for society to function. I understand that God has allowed, created evil, in this time, in this world for a purpose.. and for a good purpose (to humble us thereby). But He teaches us with it by learning to resist it.
So we should resist all appearances of evil. So many Christians do not believe this, but rather that they should "submit themselves to it" ---as if to God. These people are misguided.
Christ in effect said, these kingdoms of man are irrelevant. My kingdom shall overcome all. My authority shall usurp all. He cared not about reforming the Roman government or for bringing their political structure in line with his teachings... He said it was all passing away. And that his followers have a better City, a better Country, and they have their citizenship there NOW. Therefore are we aliens, pilgrims and transients here. We have no allegiance to our self-appointed rulers and their self-possessed kingdoms and we owe them no tribute.. All belongs to God, with nothing left to render unto anyone else.
People who have this statist bent and who also believe themselves to be followers of Christ suffer from their cognitive dissonance in ways they do not even understand.. But when carried out to it's logical conclusion, believe me, their philosophy breaks down---sometimes rapidly and catastrophically. Those Christians living in Germany between the Wars know what I am talking about.
We cannot serve two masters. And we cannot be masters. This is the message of Jesus Christ. And this is why I am an anarchist.
Peace.
pinko:
Joe,
I'm not an insurrectionist. I realize Barabbas was. I know the difference.
If it is sedition to obey God rather than man, then perhaps I am guilty of being a seditionist. If so, I am in good company. :)
Beloved:
;D ;D ;D Pinko ;D ;D ;D
Drop the anachrist ptherwise you have to assume and carry all of the baggage of that movement
become a protochrist ...one who follows Jesus
You cannot be against...anything or anyone....they are all from God
Agape love is putting everything in your being into submission to the Father, ...even the "idea of being a anachist". REST in God
Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
beloved
Craig:
And I think we've beat this horse enough now. :)
Craig
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