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Did Jesus Preach in Hades?
daywalker:
Wow! Thanks for all the responses! I knew this was simpler than I was making it, I just couldn't "put my fingers on it"!
Marques: Those Scriptures provided are amazing! And the order that you presented them in your reply was perfect. Thanx.
george: Thanx for your 2.5 cents ;) I noticed in verse 20 you have "They are like those who disobeyed long ago.." This actually helps me greatly to understand what is being said, however every translation I read doesn't include the "they are like those".. just he preached to those.. who disobeyed... Which translation did you use? Thanx
Rodger: Thanx for the email links. I remember reading them several months ago, just forgot about them. Thanks again.
Brenda: Just to add to what Samson posted, the King James really messes up in the case of John 11:26 where it says "shall never die..." Here's a few more accurate Translations:
Young's Literal Translation:
and every one who is living and believing in me shall not die -- to the age;
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible:
And, no one who liveth again and believeth on me, shall in anywise die, unto times age-abiding. Believest thou this?
Concordant Literal New Testament:
And everyone who is living and believing in Me, should by no means be dying for the eon. Are you believing this?"
Hope that helps some more..
ONCE AGAIN:
Thanks all for your help. I definitely have a much better understanding now. It's great to be able to come here to this forum and know that I will get honest SCRIPTURAL responses! I remember when I used to ask people in church, I'd typically get responses starting with, "Well, I THINK it means..." Right there I know I'm not getting the "right" answers.
But here I'm with like-minded brethren who search the Scriptures. Thanks everyone! ;D ;D
May God continue to guide us all towards Him,
CHRISTOPHER.
mharrell08:
No problem...glad to be of assistance. That's what it's all about. :)
Marques
Samson:
--- Quote from: daywalker on January 23, 2009, 01:05:42 PM ---Wow! Thanks for all the responses! I knew this was simpler than I was making it, I just couldn't "put my fingers on it"!
Marques: Those Scriptures provided are amazing! And the order that you presented them in your reply was perfect. Thanx.
george: Thanx for your 2.5 cents ;) I noticed in verse 20 you have "They are like those who disobeyed long ago.." This actually helps me greatly to understand what is being said, however every translation I read doesn't include the "they are like those".. just he preached to those.. who disobeyed... Which translation did you use? Thanx
Rodger: Thanx for the email links. I remember reading them several months ago, just forgot about them. Thanks again.
Brenda: Just to add to what Samson posted, the King James really messes up in the case of John 11:26 where it says "shall never die..." Here's a few more accurate Translations:
Young's Literal Translation:
and every one who is living and believing in me shall not die -- to the age;
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible:
And, no one who liveth again and believeth on me, shall in anywise die, unto times age-abiding. Believest thou this?
Concordant Literal New Testament:
And everyone who is living and believing in Me, should by no means be dying for the eon. Are you believing this?"
Hope that helps some more..
ONCE AGAIN:
Thanks all for your help. I definitely have a much better understanding now. It's great to be able to come here to this forum and know that I will get honest SCRIPTURAL responses! I remember when I used to ask people in church, I'd typically get responses starting with, "Well, I THINK it means..." Right there I know I'm not getting the "right" answers.
But here I'm with like-minded brethren who search the Scriptures. Thanks everyone! ;D ;D
May God continue to guide us all towards Him,
CHRISTOPHER.
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Thankyou Christopher,
I guess it's finally time to purchase Rotherhams Emphasized Bible.
I wasn't aware of that mistranslation of the phrase " Shall never die "
in John chapter 11, it sure makes things much easier to understand.
Kind Regards, Samson.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Samson on January 23, 2009, 01:25:32 PM ---Thankyou Christopher,
I guess it's finally time to purchase Rotherhams Emphasized Bible.
I wasn't aware of that mistranslation of the phrase " Shall never die "
in John chapter 11, it sure makes things much easier to understand.
Kind Regards, Samson.
--- End quote ---
No Problem! But to be honest, I have to give the credit to Ray, I first read it in his Lake of Fire Series [somewhere]. 8)
Regarding the REB, I purchased one a few weeks ago from Amazon.com, best decision I've made in awhile! I LOVE IT!
- Daywalker
aqrinc:
Hi Daywalker,
Glad i could be a signpost on your journey, we all need and use those to find the way.
Ray has been Blessed with the knowledge and Ability to teach; like few i have seen in
their discipline; and unparalled in getting The Word to us, (That is Of God).
I find that even when it is the third or fourth time reading one of his papers or listening
to an audio; more truth always rings out. Now i am forced to read The Scriptures over
to make sure (Did It Really Say That) :o.
Keep growing and learning (Spiritual Things) at the same time do some unlearning of the
(physical seen things) that we were sold. It sure has turned a light on for me.
God's Word To The Nations (Bible)
1 Peter: 3: 18-20
18-This is true because Christ suffered for our sins once. He was an innocent person, but he suffered for guilty
people so that he could bring you to God. His body was put to death, but he was brought to life through his spirit.
19-In it he also went to proclaim his victory to the spirits kept in prison.
20-They are like those who disobeyed long ago in the days of Noah when God waited patiently while Noah built
the ship. In this ship a few people--eight in all--were saved by water.
george. ;D
--- Quote from: daywalker on January 23, 2009, 02:23:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Samson on January 23, 2009, 01:25:32 PM ---Thankyou Christopher,
I guess it's finally time to purchase Rotherhams Emphasized Bible.
I wasn't aware of that mistranslation of the phrase " Shall never die "
in John chapter 11, it sure makes things much easier to understand.
Kind Regards, Samson.
--- End quote ---
No Problem! But to be honest, I have to give the credit to Ray, I first read it in his Lake of Fire Series [somewhere]. 8)
Regarding the REB, I purchased one a few weeks ago from Amazon.com, best decision I've made in awhile! I LOVE IT!
- Daywalker
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