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aqrinc:
You Will ;D; Not Your will ???, very true Steve.
george. ;D
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Judy on February 01, 2009, 03:17:56 AM ---It's not the fear of hell that works in making a person want to repent but the absolute, pure, all accepting, wonderful, beautiful, sweet and merciful love of God that brings repentance. To be in the presence of God for 1 second is enough to make you search all your life to find Him again and do everything that is good and pleasing to Him. Judy
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So amazingly True!
Ironically, all those miserable years that I believed in Hell, I did very little to change myself, my character, things I did. Oh, I tried! But I failed constantly. So many nights I went to sleep terrified that I'd wake up in Hell! :o But whenever I spoke with my Pastor or other Church people, they just kept saying, you have to try harder to do good. "But how?" They never gave me a straight answer...
I found this Bible TRUTH site in February last year, and despite popular Christian myth, I have seen more change in myself, my character,and the things I do, over the past year, then all those years growing up in Babylon! My desire to follow God has not diminished, but rather it has grown, and continues to every day.
I no longer believe in God, just because I feel obligated.. I want to! I want to follow God. I want to be better. I don't want to sin anymore.
The evil, sadistic Doctrine of Eternal Hell never had even remotely the same effect on me as the Truth that it doesn't exist!
Grace and Truth come through Jesus Christ, and the Truth sets us free!
You all are awesome! :)
- Daywalker.
Ninny:
Or are you despising the riches of His kindness and forbearance and patience, being ignorant that the kindness of God is leading you to repentance?
(Rom 2:4) CLV
What is it that leads us to repentance? Fear of Hell fire? Fear of eternal punishment? Oh, did we not notice that it is God's GOODNESS?? Are we on some kind of chain gang here that we so fear the end of the whip that it causes us to repent and follow our Master?? Did you learn this in church? I don't know if I did! The Baptists don't teach it do they? ???
My grandson went to a Baptist school for almost 6 years and for the last year he came home asking if he was "saved". He said "Ninny, am I saved? Am I going to Heaven?" I told him, "Look, being saved is a process! You will be saved when Jesus comes back and saves you outta this place! He IS going to save you! It's a promise! You repent when you disobey and come back to the way you know is right, but you don't have to live in fear that if you forget to pray one morning God is going to snatch you up and toss you into Hell!! God doesn't operate that way! That's the way humans do things and God is NOT human!!"
Well, is that putting it too simply for an 11 year old? Who ever knew that God is so GOOD to us that it makes us want to be with Him? :o
Kathy ;D :D
Longhorn:
Iv'e been to hell more than once, it aint so scarry.
Longhorn
charrie:
I thought I was in hell when I moved from gentle mild weather Chicago to Dallas, TX is HOTTER than Hell!!!! :P :P 8)
What is it that leads us to repentance? Fear of Hell fire? Fear of eternal punishment? Oh, did we not notice that it is God's GOODNESS?? Are we on some kind of chain gang here that we so fear the end of the whip that it causes us to repent and follow our Master?? Did you learn this in church? I don't know if I did!
Kathy, that is a very good way of putting that. It is the Father's goodness that leads us to repentance, however, Christendom uses it to lead us to fear to give them our money!!! >:( >:(
The evil, sadistic Doctrine of Eternal Hell never had even remotely the same effect on me as the Truth that it doesn't exist!
Daywalker, I feel exactly the same way. The Truth that it doesn't exist allowed me, strangely enough, to better love. Who knew??? :)
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