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aqrinc:



I hope i am not out of line asking; what ever is the fascination with Satan. He is currently
the ruler of this world but we are not of this world, we are only here as Ambassadors for
GOD And our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Co 5:20
For Christ, then, are we ambassadors, as of God entreating through us. We are
beseeching for Christ's sake, "Be conciliated to God!"

Yes the children of wrath are currently firmly in Satan's grip; we are children of Light, as
such we need to shine the light so those in darkness may see GOD'S Good Work In us.

Eph 2:3 
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh,
fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath,
even as others.

Those who want to sit with satan should not look here; He is where you are coming from.

Rev 2:9  I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the
blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, the ancient serpent called Adversary and Satan,
who is deceiving the whole inhabited earth. It was cast into the earth, and its messengers
were cast with it."

george >:(  :(  :'(

Kat:

Hi George,

I think as we are coming out of the church we are confused about who and what Satan is.  There much emphasis is put on how 'the devil made us do it' and causes us to sin and he is like a big scary thing.  It kind of hides and keeps us in the dark as to who the beast really is.  So I think it is good to try to learn the reality of who and what Satan is, because as long as we are in this world, just as Jesus while on earth contended with Satan, so must we.

Eph 6:11  Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
v. 12  For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

James 4:4  Unfaithful creatures! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
v. 5  Or do you suppose it is in vain that the scripture says, "He yearns jealously over the spirit which he has made to dwell in us"?
v. 6  But he gives more grace; therefore it says, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."
v. 7  Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
v. 8  Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you men of double mind.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

aqrinc:
Hi Kat,

It seems that somedays even here we cannot get away from Satan; sorry if anyone is offended.
Ray has written and recorded so much already on the subject of sin and Satan. I thought
one of the conditions for membership to the site was to familiarize oneself with Ray's teaching.
Since all this information is already there, why does it have to be explained almost minutely
again.

There is so much more that can and needs be discussed and learned, yet those Words wait
for another day. Here are some Scriptures that speak to what my concern is about:

1Co 3:1  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 3:2  I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
1Co 3:3  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
1Co 3:4  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
1Co 3:5  Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

Heb 5:8  Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9  And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Heb 5:10  Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 5:11  Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
Heb 5:12  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Heb 6:1  Therefore, having left the discourse of the beginning of Christ, let us go on to full growth, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2  of the baptisms, of doctrine, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3  And this we will do, if God permits.
Heb 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5  and have tasted the good Word of God and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6  and who have fallen away; it is impossible, I say, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify the Son of God afresh to themselves and put Him to an open shame.

george. ???

Kat:

But George, that is what we are here to do... discuss Ray's teachings.  Even after reading through all of Ray's articles, can we remember all that we have studied in them?  I know I retain only a small portion of what I read, of course going back to reread is very helpful. 

Another thing is, I know it is difficult to find where Ray has spoken on a particular thing,  so people need help locating what they remember but can't find. 

And there are little bit and pieces more that can be filled in, from the Scriptures, from what Ray has in him articles.  I know until I looked up all those Scriptures and studied that part of Ray's paper, this subject was not real clear to me.  So now I have a much better understanding of it.

I think you can see what i am getting at.  We are all helping each other along here, those that ask and those that answer, and those that just read.  I think the more we go over a subject the better we understand it.  Just thought I would share my thoughts on what you were saying.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

aqrinc:
Kat,

I will agree with you on your entire post, my question is concerning those who really
do not read the material even after it is pointed to them. I know as a moderator you
have enough to do without having to pick up after us. Yes it is a great pleasure and
a privilege for me to be able to assist those who are truly seeking Scriptural answers.
That is not and will never be a cause for concern with me rather my joy since i learn
while helping others.

So let me make it plainly stated, for the Scriptures i will do whatever is needed that
is in my ability. We have so many who are being rescued from Babylon coming here
daily; and our highest service to them is What Say's The Scripture. I call on those
who have come here and been taught by Ray and The Scriptures to dig deeper into
the word. So any can be prepared to give an answer as to why they believe with
GOD'S Word which HE Has Given to us.

Heb 6:9  But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you and things that accompany salvation, though we speak in this way.
Heb 6:10  For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
Heb 6:11  And we desire that each one of you show the same eagerness to the full assurance of hope to the end,
Heb 6:12  that you be not slothful, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Heb 6:13  For when God made promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no greater, He swore by Himself,
Heb 6:14  saying, "Surely in blessing I will bless you, and in multiplying I will multiply you."
Heb 6:15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
Heb 6:16  For men truly swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.
Heb 6:17  In this way desiring to declare more fully to the heirs of promise the immutability of His counsel, God interposed by an oath,
Heb 6:18  so that by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us,
Heb 6:19  which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters into that within the veil,
Heb 6:20  where the Forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.

george :)

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