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acomplishedartis:

What we say it’s just as important to who we say it, where we say it, and when, right? Even if we would come to know important answers or have much ability on speech, what would be the reason to split all out if we don’t find yet ourselves on a position where our words can worth enough to don’t let us bleeding on the ground?
Conversation is to move ideas and concepts all around, but then I am starting to believe that there might be no such thing as ‘‘safe conversations’’ (I mean; conversation with out showing your position or staying ‘‘supposedly’’ neutral).
I have thought that Jesus as a child knew well his position with others; this was his time of learning to become strong in spirit and then start the real fighting (I mean; to use all his good speech full of meanings and mystery).
I find it hard to find often my position; yet I am still waiting for when my time to real fighting comes. Yes, what matter is the motivation of our hearts when we speak and I believe that we must work with what we already have.
How do you deal with these overwhelming over-thinking about understanding your position with what you already know?

And then… this is all just part of our journey as well, right?

moises

aqrinc:

Hi Moises,

Patience and Longsuffering is something we are all learning. Remember those are Fruits of The Spirit.
If it was easy we could do it ourselves, GOD HAS Chosen for us to learn this way Brother.

Psa 86:15 
But thou, O Lord, art a God full of compassion, and gracious, longsuffering, and plenteous in mercy and truth.

Rom 5: 3-4
3  And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4  And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

Gal 5: 22-26
22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23  Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24  And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26  Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

2Ti 4:2 
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

george. :)

EKnight:
Hi Moises,

I have toiled with these same thoughts.  I just recently had a conversation with my husband telling him that I question my motives for wanting to reveal my beliefs to my brothers and sisters.  I am from a large catholic family.  Everyone attends church on sundays. I have always been somewhat of the black sheep of my family and being the second youngest, I have always felt that they didn't respect my thoughts or opinions on important subjects.  Now I feel like I know so much more than any of them in regard to faith and Jesus Christ and the scriptures.  I am certain that more than half of the scriptures discussed here they have never read.  The catholic church is not a "bible" church.  They are more about doctrines and dogma.  I now see most of my brothers, sisters and mother all about the physical.  Whereas now I am about the spiritual.  Now, do I want to share these truths with them because I feel strongly about my beliefs, or do I just want to say "ha ha, you all thought I was a nobody but God is calling ME!",  or is it because I feel like I am living a lie by allowing them to think that I am still a practicing catholic (which I have not been for almost a year).  I tend to think it's a little of all the above.  I have decided to just let God lead me and accept that whatever I do or whatever I say is His will.

Eileen

LiberatedEagle:
Hello Eileen,

Greetings my sister in the Lord. This is the first time I've corresponded with you and it seems that we're so connected as all of us are here on the forum. I am constantly amazed at how much we all have in common. Black sheep of our family, overlooked, deemed as incompetent and controversial when it comes to the word of God. The list goes on and on. To me that's another confirmation that something real special is going on here.

I too wrestle with how to share this truth with my folks. Since I've been the one to question so much they feel that I am "leaning to my own understanding". I went out with my mother last week for my birthday and I wanted to ask her some questions in regards to the origin of Satan. I brought up the scriptures in Isaiah and Ezekiel and asked her if she knew of any other witnesses to confirm this theory and she stated that the scripture in Revelations confirms that Satan and his angels were cast out. Though it doesn't state from where they were cast out she believes this corroborates the story of Satan once being an angel in heaven..etc..etc. I didn't want to get in an argument on my birthday, so I chose not to be adamant about the subject.

My father is an elder in the church and he's very worried about me. He calls and leaves messages on my phone to console me as if I'm very depressed and lost. I want to scream this truth to them because I have waited SOOO long to receive some type of consolation in regards to the feelings I've had for years. I too wonder whether or not my motives are pure and so I have abstained from bringing the subject up to the majority of my family. The truth is so overwhelming it's very hard for me not to share it, especially since I love to converse about things of the Spirit.

With that being said, I deeply feel that our time is coming. I can't imagine that God would reveal such wonderful truths to us, for us to just bury them. Scripture states in Matt 5:14 "Ye are the light of the world, a city that is set on a hill cannot be hid". God will definitely get the glory out of our lives. The only thing that somewhat saddens me is I don't believe that most of my family will "get it" in this lifetime. However, I still praise and thank God because I know that everything, especially in our lives, is happening according to God's perfect plan. (Roms. 8:28)

George and Rodger the scriptures you posted are very encouraging. I ask for you all to continue to pray for me, as I know you are, that God grants me the fruit of the spirit temperance, patience and longsuffering. I definitely know how you feel Eileen, but I know I have to stay humble. I can understand even more clearly now why God gave Paul the thorn in the flesh, because of the abundance of revelations he'd receive. (2 Corithians 12:7) I guess we have to brace ourselves for our thorn. It's mandatory isn't it? 

May God bless all my sisters and brothers in Christ,


Charles 

Dave in Tenn:
I have to admit that most of the reasons for my not actively sharing the good news more are related to sin...fear, primarily, but laziness too.  But there is also a sense that I don't want to dishonor the Truth by not being prepared and ending up laying on the ground bleeding, like you said. 

I know that I am not saving myself.  I left the church years ago in great part because I wasn't much of a Christian and didn't want to be just another hypocrite.  So there is a part of me that is concerned that I am still lacking 'something' in moral or character terms that disqualifies me from being more outspoken.  This too is 'up to God'.

There is so much to learn, both in Doctrine AND in character, before we (I) can hope to be effective.  Yet even with a little light, the Gospel we carry is brighter than the darkness of the world.  We are His workmanship, and nothing we do is outside His influence.  That's the 'rest' I am striving to enter.  What a predicament.

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