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I have something very interesting to share.
Dave in Tenn:
Steve, I like to look at pictures of God's creation too. And I am as interested in people's testimonies as the next guy. I wish there were more, actually. But when somebody tells a joke, we are not asked to pray and seek God for the punchline. If somebody saw the face of the Virgin Mary in their omellete, then who am I to argue? But am I to pray and ask God to show ME the sign and the meaning behind it? Should I leave them to continue following after signs if it's in my grasp to influence them differently?
At times, there are posts that elicit discussion and different points of view can be expressed as to what this means to each of us individually. Craig's post on the observation of the differences between 1957 and 2009 is a good example. That's what people do when they talk. We can take it or leave it, add to it or disagree with it. If it interests us at all, it makes us think. If Craig had started that post with the implication that he had some hidden wisdom not in Scripture that we ought to be praying and asking God for, my reaction would have been the same--expressed or not expressed.
There are also instances where from the post itself, it seems clear that the member is losing focus (or has never had it in the first place) on what is important. To rock or not to rock is not important, ultimately, for an example. If moved, we should attempt to raise the bar to that higher calling--otherwise, all we have is our own opinion and 'testimony'...both of which may be fine for you but not a 'religion' that others must follow, and leave the OP as much in the dark as when he or she asked.
It's a fine line between Godly council and spiritual one-upsmanship, but I don't think it has been crossed here.
That's the take on 'why' from my chair.
Falconn003:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 12, 2009, 11:53:38 AM ---Steve, I like to look at pictures of God's creation too. And I am as interested in people's testimonies as the next guy. I wish there were more, actually. But when somebody tells a joke, we are not asked to pray and seek God for the punchline. If somebody saw the face of the Virgin Mary in their omellete, then who am I to argue? But am I to pray and ask God to show ME the sign and the meaning behind it? Should I leave them to continue following after signs if it's in my grasp to influence them differently?
At times, there are posts that elicit discussion and different points of view can be expressed as to what this means to each of us individually. Craig's post on the observation of the differences between 1957 and 2009 is a good example. That's what people do when they talk. We can take it or leave it, add to it or disagree with it. If it interests us at all, it makes us think. If Craig had started that post with the implication that he had some hidden wisdom not in Scripture that we ought to be praying and asking God for, my reaction would have been the same--expressed or not expressed.
There are also instances where from the post itself, it seems clear that the member is losing focus (or has never had it in the first place) on what is important. To rock or not to rock is not important, ultimately, for an example. If moved, we should attempt to raise the bar to that higher calling--otherwise, all we have is our own opinion and 'testimony'...both of which may be fine for you but not a 'religion' that others must follow, and leave the OP as much in the dark as when he or she asked.
It's a fine line between Godly council and spiritual one-upsmanship, but I don't think it has been crossed here.
That's the take on 'why' from my chair.
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Dave
And you want to take a back seat and deprive members of wonderful works like this......
I could not have said it any better.
Rodger
smeacham:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on February 12, 2009, 11:49:39 AM ---Because THOSE discussion topics are not Showing/teaching/asking you :::
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Rodger
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--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 12, 2009, 11:53:38 AM ---...when somebody tells a joke, we are not asked to pray and seek God for the punchline. If somebody saw the face of the Virgin Mary in their omellete, then who am I to argue? But am I to pray and ask God to show ME the sign and the meaning behind it? Should I leave them to continue following after signs if it's in my grasp to influence them differently?
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There are also instances where from the post itself, it seems clear that the member is losing focus (or has never had it in the first place) on what is important
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Thank you for the very clear explanation. I'm sure that God had His reasons for keeping me from discerning this on my own - probably to prompt this follow-on discussion, and thereby enlighten us all. It makes perfect sense now, and I see the difference. I wish I could say that I was purposefully playing "good cop, bad cop" to make a point, but I'm not that clever :-\ I'm just happy to have played a supporting role :)
I hope that nobody, including Harry, is looking for or worshiping graven images of any kind. Harry's original message seemed to be in the past tense, but could possibly cause a weaker brother to stumble, or Harry may be about to stumble himself. It's best that we stopped and planted both feet firmly in the Truth before that happens.
Steve
Falconn003:
--- Quote from: Steve Meacham on February 12, 2009, 03:05:38 PM ---Thank you for the very clear explanation. I'm sure that God had His reasons for keeping me from discerning this on my own - probably to prompt this follow-on discussion, and thereby enlighten us all. It makes perfect sense now, and I see the difference. I wish I could say that I was purposefully playing "good cop, bad cop" to make a point, but I'm not that clever :-\ I'm just happy to have played a supporting role :)
I hope that nobody, including Harry, is looking for or worshiping graven images of any kind. Harry's original message seemed to be in the past tense, but could be possibly cause a weaker brother to stumble, or Harry may be about to stumble himself. It's best that we stopped and planted both feet firmly in the Truth before that happens.
Steve
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Not IT !! , and since i am not IT....
I now nominate Steve as Harry's Spiritual study buddy. J/k of course
Rodger
smeacham:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on February 12, 2009, 03:10:30 PM ---Not IT !! , and since i am not IT....
I now nominate Steve as Harry's Spiritual study buddy. J/k of course
Rodger
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Safe! I'm already touching base. I'm on a publicly declared sabbatical from teaching until God tells me otherwise.
Steve
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