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buddyjc:

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--- Quote from: love_magnified ---Here is a possible way of looking at it.

Water and Blood = Jesus in flesh
Spirit = JESUS raised to life after death

But Jesus is come in the flesh, ours right now. As he is, so are we. So together, water, blood, and spirit are one.
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EXACTLY Love_Magnified, worded perfectly with few words :D

Daniel
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Bask in the simplicity!  :D

Victoria:

--- Quote from: love_magnified on June 02, 2006, 03:28:41 PM ---Dear Mr. Smith
In response to your doctrine of the Trinity or lack thereof, I have one portion of scripture to read to you: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1. Does this not say that Jesus and God were one person? I am very interested to see your standpoint on this verse. I am not asking for a lengthy response, but I am not opposed to one.

Thank you for your time,
Mr. O


Dear Mr. O:
So you believe that one can be "WITH" someone else and yet at the same time "BE" that other person that he is "WITH"? I am not asking for a lengthy response...........
God be with you,
Ray

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I don't have esword handy. Can someone post the translation info about this verse. I have actually heard that the translation should read "The word was toward God, and the word was God." Which means the Word is the visible image of the invisible God both points toward God and also has been given all rule and authority and thought it not pillaging to be equal with God. The originial translation does speak to that anyway, but I am curious about the original Greek.

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[size=14]According to the word of God. The Word made flesh.  God can never more than one. Always one God.[/size]

Victoria:

--- Quote from: Daniel on June 03, 2006, 02:43:42 AM ---:lol: Who can tell us concerning that verse? Is that scripture true or false ? How can I know to take it away or keep it?

Now you have me interested :lol:

Daniel

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    The only way I can answer you in the book of Revelation 22:18 saying....
    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:  

And also can be found in the book of......Deut. 4:2 
    Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

The way I understand this two verses to my own study  are called partial law. The reason why they are partial law.  If a man teaches the word of God.....

Example: Let's talked about tithing. If man teaches the tithing. Some of us we know the tithing is 10 %. The preacher will say... If you don't pay tithe - you are robbing God?

The reason why this one sound like is true but is false teaching. Because according to the law of Moses. You cannot bring your tithes and lay your tithes in every places without God approval.  Because it is a curse.

You can only offer the tithe and offering to those gates where God choose the place in order to set His name.  If God did not approved the place. You are not allowed to. Because it is forbidden.  God has chosen 12 gates called the tribes of Israel. Remember the devil loves to place his own gates. This is the revelation God has given me from last year 2005.

That is the why Jesus said... upon this rock .. I will build my church and gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

So in my own study.... The 12 tribes are the gates. Since we are in the New testament Jesus chosen 12 apostles.  So therefore the 12 apostles called foundation.

Remember... gates without no foundation will not stand.  This is the reason why gates are important to God.  Very sacred. 

So therefore this is makes it add or diminish in the word God.  Meaning they are teaching half of Old T. and half New T.  If... they did follow all the rules and regulation in the old testament. 

The Matthew 23:23 and Malachi 3:8-10  ( CURSE IS THE OATH) The answer for this message it is recorded in the book of ...... Daniel 9:11   
    Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.

I hope I had answer your question. I could explain more further. But I don't want to bore you.  I love brother Smith teaching.  God has reveal to him in different way.  And God reveal it to me in different way.  But is all true.




Victoria:

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I love brother Smith teaching. When I read that if you are a pastor. You feel like is the lowest saint.  He cover pretty much all the area. It is good stuff. I love it!

The only thing that he did not cover is the forbidden part. Because the forbidden part is actually the curse.  What is actually the curse is. What is the curse? My own study is... the curse is when people laying their tithes every place.  This is actually the curse.  Because God has to tell the us where to lay the tithes.

Just like when Moses God gave him instructions how to build the inside of the tabenarcle. The same way the Noah's Ark.  Has to be build how God wants it. Not the way we want it. It  has to God's way!

This is the reason why the laying the tithes every place is forbidden. Because of the false gods. 

God only chosen 12 gates. Those gates are the only the Israel can bring their tithes. It was also recorded in Revelation.

Satan knows how to twist God's word from the beginning. Just like God wants you to have all the trees except one.  The same way when God made covenant to Israel God only chose 12 gates to bring their tithes, offering, etc...

Satan tricks still exists today.  He focus on one tree.  Now Satan focusing all the gates spreading the gates for himself without God's approval.

If you and I go to Jerusalem.  How can we tell which is the right tribes?  So the main thing is to know the tribe of Israel.  Therefore if we are trying to find out the history we must go to the gates where God chose to place His name and set it there. 

Because not all the history are true. If we go to the wrong gates. Because there is so many idols been place in Jerusalem.  This is the reason why the writer say.. not all are Israel? Because there is true Israel.  The true Israel will say ....Deut. 6:4
    Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Romans 9:6 
    Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

That is the reason why this scripture. I did not really understand it before until I read all the regulation and rules about the tithings.  It says.... James 2:10   
    For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.



God gave me this in my dream 12 years ago.  He gave me understanding How very sacred is the covenant for Israel.

Brother Smith he was right in his teaching. Thank God for him. Amen

Kat:
Hi Victoria,

I find your posts to be very confusing.
These things you say, about tithe and offering at 12 chosen gates,
and the forbidden part is the curse, is not scriptural.
Are you saying that you were given your understanding in dreams? 
Do you feel you are being given truth beyond what we have in scripture? 
If not then could you please use the scripture to back up what you are trying to say.

Joh 2:22  When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

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