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Roy Martin:
Wow,so all those years I thought that I had little faith or no faith, or thought I didn't even believe in Him the first time I cried out to Him and knew nothing of His word other than things I heard here and there in the world. So I did believe after all, but not on my own but by the gift I didn't know I had.
Im in no way in disagreement with the scriptures its just that I didnt have understanding of many of them in my years in the church but yet my faith grew. It wasnt until I came to BT that I started to see the word for what it is.
Roy
Kat:
Hi Roy,
Here is an excerpt from 'Winning Souls For Jesus.'
http://bible-truths.com/souls.htm -----------------
I'm asked why I teach the Truths of God if "All is of God," and God does all the choosing and drawing? Because that is HOW God operates. God uses the foolishness of preaching as one of His means by which He communicates with His Elect:
"Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Has not God made foolish [Gk: ‘stupid’] the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe" (I Cor. 1:20-21).
And it is God who grants us faith as His gift (Eph. 2:08), to believe this "foolish preaching" of God’s true servants of the Gospel.
Certainly we should all follow Peter’s admonition to:
"…be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear [reverence]" (I Pet. 3:15).
But God has not called all to be teachers:
"Not all are apostles. Not all are prophets. Not all are teachers" (I Cor. 12:29, Concordant Literal N.T.).
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
kenny:
hey brother roy this helps me
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
) conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it
a) relating to God
1) the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ
b) relating to Christ
1) a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God
c) the religious beliefs of Christians
d) belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same
2) fidelity, faithfulness
a) the character of one who can be relied on
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: jacobbsladdr on February 27, 2009, 12:35:37 PM ---I think I'm having my eyes and ears opened... I almost feel idiotic if I am just now understanding this correctly.
I just want to see if I'm understanding this correctly because on the surface you'd think that this was a very simple statement to understand but ...
Preaching is foolish because All is of God and God has Declared the Beginning from the End. As was stated earlier, God does all the choosing and drawing & "preaching" will not change anything that God has already ordained, BUT it pleases God to have his Elect preach His Word & he uses the pure silliness of preaching (because it makes no difference if someone preaches or not, God's Will will be done regardless) to speak to his Elect... am I getting this right?
--- End quote ---
Bingo :)
Marques
Kat:
Hi Jacobbsladdr,
Everything that we do in this world is vain, even the wisdom of the world is foolishness to Him. So the thing is what can even the wisdom of this world accomplish for God?
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God...
1Co 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom...
No man has the wisdom to teach another about God, our attemps to preach is but folly and foolishness to Him.
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. (KJV)
1Co 1:21 ...it pleased God through the folly of what we preach... (RSV)
1Co 1:21 ...God delights, through the stupidity of the heralding... (CLV)
1Co 1:21 ... God was well-pleased—through the foolishness of the thing proclaimed (Rotherham)
But God has taken a few of the few (because not all of the chosen are called to teach, I Cor. 12:29), and He is actually "pleased" and is able to use this foolishness attempt at preaching "to save" or to begin the process of salvation in the Elect. But ONLY by the spirit of Christ indwelling, so then it is actually Christ working through foolish humans.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect (mature): yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to naught:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
2Co 1:12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.
Just my foolish attempt to explain the way I see it :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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