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EKnight:
Right Suzie, I understand that but I am just saying that right off the bat we could say that the very first two verses cannot be considered part of the first day because it wasn't until verse three that God even created the light that defines day.  I am just pointing another way of looking at it.  Of course it is implied in the route that Ray took us and I was just wondering if he ever "stated" that.

I thought it was a simplified version but maybe not.  ???

Eileen

cherokee:
Eileen,

Here's what Ray said about verses 1 & 2.


--- Quote ---The six days only consist of what “God said” should take place during those periods of time.  But in the beginning God had already created the heavens and the earth.  The creation was finished from the foundation of the world.   In verse 2 the earth was uninhabitable for humanity, tohu and bohu.

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form (tohu), and void (bohu);

It had to be fashioned and He begins that fashioning with “And God said.”  Verses 1 and 2 have nothing to do with the 6 creating times.  Totally outside if that period.  Can you see it?  Okay.
--- End quote ---

Does this help?

Suzie

Dave in Tenn:
Eileen, I understand.  What you're saying is making an argument 'against' those looking for literal 24-hour days in the account.  Couldn't be a 'day' for them if (according to their thinking) God had not yet created the sun.  It's tough making orthodox theologians (both professional and amateur) make sense.   :D

I'll tell you from my chair, by the time Ray got to this stuff I wasn't so much struggling to keep up as I was hanging on for dear life.   ;D  I'm not sure if he said anything exactly like that, but it's certainly one of those cases (for me) when knowing the truth of the scripture eliminates ALL other possibilities and contradictions.

EKnight:
Yeah, Dave, when you see it it's almost too obvious, like how could anyone have missed it. I'm suddenly seeing a lot of things in the first three books of Genesis that I have never seen before.  Ray is correct, it is jam packed.

Eileen

kenny:
the Hebrew word for day (yom), does not strictly translate into the literal twenty-four hour sense of day. Within the context of the first two chapters of Genesis we find the word day used in three different ways.

(1) A solar day (1:14)

(2) Daylight as opposed to night (1:5,14,16)

(3) The entire creative period (2:4)

Hence, the context does not demand that we take the word day in a strict literal sense of twenty-four hours
i have been listening to dave on this subject today and it is so cool, i have never seen this before.

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