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Hell Does Not Equal Love
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Marlene on March 10, 2009, 01:10:23 AM ---... If, you have any certain scriptures that touched you. I would love to hear them.
All, Glory and Praise Goes To God!
In His Love,
Marlene
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Hello Marlene & Everyone,
There are so many, it'd take too much room. What's amazing to me is that the more and more I study, I'm starting to notice, how much 'smaller' the Bible is getting. Not smaller in value or worth, but physically. For so long, the Bible seemed like such a large book, the thought of ever understanding it, was simply overwhelming.
But as I learn and memorize more Scriptures, and understand more of what it's teaching, whether a particular section, chapter, book, ...or as a whole, it is becoming more and more easy to find verses that I want to look up. In that way, the Bible is becoming smaller to my eyes, as they continue to be more opened.
Well, here a few Scriptures that I have kept close to me, and have really struck deep:
Proverbs 25:2: It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
James 4:10: Be humbled, then, in the Lord's sight, and He shall be exalting you.
I Timothy 2:15-16: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Matthew 23:25-28: Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are cleansing the outside of the cup and the plate, yet inside they are brimming with rapacity and incontinence. Blind Pharisee! Cleanse first the inside of the cup and the plate, that their outside also may be becoming clean! "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are resembling the whitewashed sepulchers which outside, indeed, are appearing beautiful, yet inside they are crammed with the bones of the dead and all uncleanness. Thus you, also, outside, indeed, are appearing to men to be just, yet inside you are distended with hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Isaiah 1:16-17: Wash yourselves! Purge yourselves! Take away the evil of your actions from in front of My eyes! Leave off the evil! Learn to be good! Inquire for judgment! Make happy the wronged! Judge the orphan! Contend for the widow!
"Inquire for judgment" I wonder how many "Babylonians" are following this commandment? :D
Psalms 139:11-12: If I said, Surely darkness, it snuffed me up, And night is belted about me, Even darkness, it is not darkening to You, And the night, as the day, is giving light; Darkness is as light.
- Daywalker
Marlene:
Hello Daywalker, Wow, you just spoke, what I had been thinking today. I am starting to find Scriptures easier and learn what Chapters are about. I have a long ways to go, but I never learned any of this while in Babylon. The Pastors picked out the scriptures he wanted to preach on and it was never like Ray has showed us on BT. The Bible has come alive and it is so exciting you can't get enough. You are so right there are all kind of scriptures in the Bible that speaks of Love. Some men think the God of the OT was not about Love. The do not know the OT was physical. The NT is spiritual. But , both are needed.
Thanks for all who have left post. I am happy to see more pearls if someone feels led.
In His Love,
Marlene
The Bible is a book about Love
smeacham:
--- Quote from: Marlene on March 10, 2009, 03:32:39 PM ---...but I never learned any of this while in Babylon. The Pastors picked out the scriptures he wanted to preach on and it was never like Ray has showed us on BT...
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So true. I was a very big advocate of context/context/context. I would read and preach the Bible that way. Expository preaching differs from topical preaching because it concentrates on a specific text and discusses topics covered in it, rather than a specific topic and then referencing texts covering the topic. Expository teaching is definitely NOT that common in Babylon these days, and it used to upset me to no end.
In fact, I'm still grappling with Ray's position on "context." Since Ray has become my primary earthly spiritual teacher, I've yet to find something that he teaches that I don't ultimately come around to his point of view. So, I have no reason to doubt it. I just don't have a firm grasp on WHY yet.
Steve
aqrinc:
--- Quote ---In fact, I'm still grappling with Ray's position on "context." Since Ray has become my primary earthly spiritual teacher, I've yet to find something that he teaches that I don't ultimately come around to his point of view. So, I have no reason to doubt it. I just don't have a firm grasp on WHY yet.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I Just have a bit of text to add to this conversation again. My understanding now is
that the context matters, but ones perspective is really more of a determinant to
understanding. That may sound like a philosophical argument, is it really?
GOD Has the best perspective; HE Already declared The End from The Beginning. The
sooner we (all of us) stop trying to figure it out from our perspective and go with HIS
Flow. The sooner we start to see that it is All One Thing; From GOD'S Viewpoint, the
easier it is to give up our idols.
Here Is the context from GOD'S Perspective, the only one that matters:
John 3:16-18 (CLV)
16 For thus God loves the world, so that He gives His only-begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him should not be perishing, but may be having life eonian."
17 For God does not dispatch His Son into the world that He should be judging the world, but that the world may be saved through Him."
18 He who is believing in Him is not being judged; yet he who is not believing has been judged already, for he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God."
george. ;D
Dave in Tenn:
Steve, the pastor at the last church I attended regularly was an 'expository' preacher. Of course, his 'exposition' was fully flavored with the doctrines of men and devils, but at times he could really point out what God was saying in a passage. This is still the kind of teaching I like best and respond to most readily. But I've found that unless there is a foundation of truth already established, it is no less a faulty way of teaching than 'proof-texting' or covering topics. The truth stands up to whatever 'foolishness' the teacher/preacher who knows it is led to deliver it by.
Just so's you know, I at least started down the path to become a preacher and learned a few things about 'exegesis' and stuff. ;D Thankfully, there was much more evidence that God called me NOT to preach than there ever was that He called me TO preach. Had I continued, there would likely have been a small stream of Baptist churches left smoldering in my wake. ;D
Though I knew there were a LOT of things that did not line up between the Scripture and my church's Doctrine and practice, I have little doubt that I could have learned to compromise after I had done my best to 'reform' it, which was a large part of what propelled me to make such a decision in the first place. Oh God--the blind leading the blind trying to reform the Harlot. Enough of that. I'm blessed to have a place at the banquet the Spirit of God has laid out by Ray. God bless his beautiful feet. Sometimes I just want to sit and admire them. ;D
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