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Fear those who can destroy the body and the soul
Craig:
So is it fear.....him? or fear.....Him? Who is the H/him talked about?
Craig
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Craig on March 11, 2009, 05:24:34 AM ---So is it fear.....him? or fear.....Him? Who is the H/him talked about?
Craig
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Matthew 10:28 (New Living Translation)
“Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28 (New King James Version)
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28 (Young's Literal Translation)
`And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.
Matthew 10:28 (New American Standard Bible)
"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Hi Craig,
Here are a few other translations that appear to clarify this, also if we continue reading (KJV) Matthew Chapter 10 (verses 29-33) Jesus is speaking of His (our) Father.
We also have a reference to this in Luke;
Luke 12 (New Living Translation)
4 “Dear friends, don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot do any more to you after that.
5 But I’ll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill you and then throw you into hell. Yes, he’s the one to fear.
Luke 12 (New American Standard Bible)
4"I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do.
5"But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!
Peace,
Joe
Samson:
Hi Darren,
As shown in Kats and George's Post, the key Greek word isApollumiwhich means " to lose,
lost, ruin, destroy. Jesus came to save that which was lost. See another Email response of Ray's that
I copied and pasted below, it's addressed to a Mr. Smith PHD. I don't have the question part, only the
answer Ray gave which discusses the Greek Apollumi.
Dear Dr. Smith: Too big a subject for an email, but I will make a few comments. Christian doctrine is built upon paganism, superstition, erroneous translations, and hideous doctrines of men. Of course, those persons who are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will not be in the kingdom reign of Jesus Christ. But that fact has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of humanity's eternal destiny.
"Many are called but few as chosen" is a statement of fact, not a statement of eternal exclusion. God has predetermined to choose out a chosen elect FEW. These will enter into the Kingdom of God which will then bring about the salvation of the rest of humanity through Judgment. Judgment is upon the chosen few House of God NOW (I Pet. 4:17). When the knowledge of the Lord covers the earth like the waters cover the sea, then, not now but then, "Because He hath appointed a day, IN THE WHICH He will judge the world in RIGHTEOUSNESS..." (Acts 17:31). "WHEN [not now, but 'when'] Thy Judgments are in the earth the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Isa. 26:9).
Those who enter the straight and narrow (difficult) way will enter into the Kingdom of God, but those who go the broad way will go into DESTRUCTION. This is certainly true. However. What is the final destiny of those who go the broad way to destruction. Is there hope for the lost, the perish, the destroyed? Duh!! Jesus said, "The Son of Man is come to save that which was lost" (Luke 19:10, Matt. 18:11).
The word translated "lost" is the Greek word "apollumi" which is translated "LOST," "PERISHED," and "DESTROYED." Jesus Christ said that He is come to SAVE all those who are "apollumi"--destroyed, perished, and lost.
But does anyone believe Jesus? NOT MANY. Like I said, too big a subject for an email.
God be with you,
Ray
Notice that Ray refers to Matthew 18:11 and Luke 19:10 where it says that the Son of Man
came to save that which was Lost.
Kind Regards, Samson.
First Fruit:
There is only One in whom we fear... Fear God and keep his commandments. Not a scary fear but a reverence fear. Fear of being disobedient to our Father. All souls belong to God and go back to God... Adam was dead until God breathed his Spirit in him, then he became a living soul. Our soul is what's being perfected not the outer man. We are to love Father with with all our heart, all our mind, and all our souls. Our souls is the inner man that's growing and being conformed to the image of Christ. He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light. Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. He restores my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Our soul waiteth for the LORD: he is our help and our shield. And my soul shall be joyful in the LORD: it shall rejoice in his salvation.
As the deer panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.
I can go on and on....
Read the Psalms and Be Bless My Brother! Let the Spirit lead and guide you into all truth.
First Fruit
aqrinc:
Hi Craig,
This may be too simplistic of an explanation, but when applied to me, this is how i see it.
The Fear (Him) is what a Child has for a Loving Parent; do right to get my Parents Approval.
Do not do wrong, which will get chastisement; from my same Loving Parents, to set me right.
Since we know that in this life we will have tribulation, we need not fear any of the pains,
chastisements or threats of this world (life).
`And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul,
The Fear Of GOD (Him) is not a fear in terror, but one of not having His Approval.
but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.
george. :)
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