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daywalker:
Proverbs 25:2:
The glory of God, is to conceal a thing, but, the glory of kings, is to search out a thing.

I was just thinking to myself, how ironic it is, that the Enghlish word "hell" used to mean to cover up or to conceal. Has He not used the new modern meaning of this same word, to conceal His Truths about the Reconciliation of all?

I often wonder why God would use such a "damnable heresy", knowing that it would cause many people to curse His Name, and despise the very thought of His Existence. Yet..

Isa 55:8 For, my thoughts, are not, your thoughts, Nor, your ways, my ways,—Declareth Yahweh.

I say 'Amen, to that, Lord'.

- Daywalker.

arion:
I've been thinking along the same lines the last few days.  There were precious few 'pastors' that I paid any attention to as most of them seemed full of vanity and wanting to build their own little fifedoms instead of the things of God, or they would go off on a hundred different rabbit trails paying attention to one or two doctrines and ignoring the rest.  And yet, all of those pastors that I respected (and there was only a few) all hold to the damnable doctrine of hell as taught by orthodoxy.

I was looking over the writings of one of them who was writing shortly after 911 that all of those hijackers were now buring in hell forever....and I could read no further.  Automatically sentenced to hell upon death with never having being judged guilty by the Lord.  And these pastors all believed in the immortality of the soul so upon death your either in heaven or in hell and yet by that they deny many scriptures that tell us about the process.  And how they accept and preach that God is love yet although we know that God never changes and love never fails, yet they teach at the moment of death that God's love for the sinner now changes to hate and a hate worse than the worst despot who has ever lived. 

The thing is that I of course could never see these truths either and I was just as guilty as they in speaking to others and warning them about the hell that burns forever.  But now that my eyes have been opened I'm seeing God's whole and complete plan of salvation all throughout the scriptures and in scriptures that before I never would of thought had anything to do with salvation or the reconcilliation of all creation.  Truly in the eons all creation will praise him and every knee shall bow and every tongue confess to the glory of God that Jesus is Lord when we all see truly how great God's love really is.

aqrinc:

Daywalker,

Here are 2 translations of the same Scripture; it is amazing how we can find these Pearls;
where before there was only fear and death and hell to keep us inline.

Rom 5: 6-10 (CLV)
6 For Christ, while we are still infirm, still in accord with the era, for the sake of the irreverent, died."
7 For hardly for the sake of a just man will anyone be dying: for, for the sake of a good man, perhaps someone may even be daring to die,
8 yet God is commending this love of His to us, seeing that, while we are still sinners, Christ died for our sakes."
9 Much rather, then, being now justified in His blood, we shall be saved from indignation, through Him."
10 For if, being enemies, we were conciliated to God through the death of His Son, much rather, being conciliated, we shall be saved in His life."

Rom 5: 6-10 (GW)
6  Look at it this way: At the right time, while we were still helpless, Christ died for ungodly people.
7  Finding someone who would die for a godly person is rare. Maybe someone would have the courage to die for a good person.
8  Christ died for us while we were still sinners. This demonstrates God's love for us.
9  Since Christ's blood has now given us God's approval, we are even more certain that Christ will save us from God's anger.
10  If the death of his Son restored our relationship with God while we were still his enemies, we are even more certain that, because of this restored relationship, the life of his Son will save us.

george. :)

Marlene:
Here are some scriptures , that really hit me that I had read, while blind. There, are so many more but these shook me up. Because, he opened my eyes.

John Chapter 12 verse 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men into me.

John Chapter 3 verse 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

This verse really makes me think. How we love our loved ones, but think God is not more loving. We don't wish our loved one would go to Hell. At least, I hope not.

Job Chapter 4 vers 17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?

One, night while Reading Ray's articles these scriptures jumped out at me. I have to laugh when I see how blind I was. God does conceal.

John Chapter 6 verse 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Man who is blinded thinks they choose him.

In His Love,
Marlene

daywalker:
Arion: The thing is that I of course could never see these truths either and I was just as guilty as they in speaking to others and warning them about the hell that burns forever.  But now that my eyes have been opened I'm seeing God's whole and complete plan of salvation all throughout the scriptures and in scriptures that before I never would of thought had anything to do with salvation or the reconcilliation of all creation.

So true. This is what keeps us humble also, knowing that "but by the grace of God", we would still be Living in Babylon, or perhaps worse. I, too, am finding God's Truths everywhere, all the time. Every day that I read the Bible, it's a whole new book.

PS: I don't believe we've 'met' yet, so hello, nice to meet you.


george: ...it is amazing how we can find these Pearls...

As usual great insight! This, to me, is a huge dagger to the Church, that Christ died for us, while we were yet sinners.


Marlene: Here are some scriptures , that really hit me that I had read, while blind. There, are so many more but these shook me up. Because, he opened my eyes.

I remember the first time I read Job 4:17 in one of Ray's articles, that was the "first blow" to my Babylonian 'faith'. Before  that, I was reading through his writings, and I was very intrigued by his arguments, and the Scriptures seemed like they may be supporting him... But then Ray 'dropped' that verse on me, and I distinctly remember a huge chill go down my spine, and I felt a little dizzy. It was weird. But that was the moment where I started to really pay attention to what Ray was saying, and that's when I started to pray, and meditate, and believe that what he was teaching might actually be true.

From that moment on, I haven't looked back, and God-willing, I won't ever again.


Thanks for your posts.

- Daywalker.

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