> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
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			TheRysta:
			
			
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on March 13, 2009, 09:15:53 AM ---Ryan,
A human being is a living soul, which consists of the spirit of God & a body [Gen 3:7]...therefore, an out of body experience is impossible. We do not tolerate heresy and unscriptural doctrines from any members, no matter their age or level of understanding. Hope you understand.
Marques
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Soz, I had no idea that OBEs were unscriptural. Like I've said I personally have experienced nothing I could call genuinely being out of my body. All I want to get across is that the experience itself is real. I did feel like I had come out of my body, but I am not suggesting that I actually had. The mind does have such a capacity to play tricks on you. The people who mistake OBEs for astral projection must simply be unable to differentiate between reality and imagination.
		
			cherokee:
			
			Hey Rayn,
Welcome to the forum.
Suzie
		
			Marky Mark:
			
			Ryan,
  Hello and welcome to the forums. :)
  As Marques has stated, the forum here is scripturally based ,not man made doctrines or evil provocations of the world.I am confident that all the members here will go to bat for you in the spiritual truths.
  
  Again welcome.
Peace...Mark
   
		
			daywalker:
			
			
--- Quote from: TheRysta on March 13, 2009, 09:31:19 AM ---Soz, I had no idea that OBEs were unscriptural. Like I've said I personally have experienced nothing I could call genuinely being out of my body. All I want to get across is that the experience itself is real. I did feel like I had come out of my body, but I am not suggesting that I actually had. The mind does have such a capacity to play tricks on you. The people who mistake OBEs for astral projection must simply be unable to differentiate between reality and imagination.
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Hey Ryan,
There's a difference between literally coming out of your body [which is impossible, both Scripturally and Scientifically], and having a 'dream' or a 'vision', in which you appear to be out of your body [very possible, both Scripturally and Scientifically].
As for those links, I'm sorry that they didn't work [I checked them too, weird  ???]
Well, if you are on BibleTruths Forum home page, go to "Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings", then you will see a link for "Ray's Audio" and "Transcripts of Ray's Audio..." If you go into "Ray's Audio" and click on the "2008" you will see a study titled: "July 2008 Bible Study 23 Minutes in Hell". That's the one where Ray talks about this Bill [not so] Wiese guy.  :D
Let me know if you have trouble finding it, buddy. 
- Daywalker.
		
			Dave in Tenn:
			
			Yep...the mind does play tricks.
I had an experience as a late-teenager at the Dentist--if there was ever a time one might want to be 'out of their body' its in the Dentist's chair.   ;D
Maybe it was the nitrous oxide, but I saw myself 'out of body' shrunk down and sitting on one of my back teeth watching as the drill made short work of a molar.  I could have invested in that 'vision' a lot of things, and for certain there would have been an author to 'explain' what had happened in deep religious or philosophical terms for a price.  I might could have even taken the experience and turned it into a bit of a money-making 'ministry' for myself had there been a Jerry Springer or TBN to help launch it.  But I just chalked it up to a vivid imagination and to having been raised in front of a television.  I think I was right. 
A surprisingly high percentage of people claim to have been abducted by aliens as well.  The mind does play tricks, and far too many of them are nasty.  I hope you can manage to hear that audio.
		
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