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Why isn't hell warned about more?
TheRysta:
This is the kind of question which many Christians should ask themselves but simply never do. I would probably have not either. I didn't find this point on Ray's site (I'm not sure if he mentions it or not) but from tentmaker.com. The simple point is that the Jews originally had no concept of eternal torture in the afterlife. This is clearly the most important thing to be warning people about. However, in spite of all this, hell is warned about surprisingly little. Take Paul for example- from what I've heard he doesn't even warn of eternal punishment in the afterlife. Just imagine being in his position. If you had recieved this revelation that millions shall burn forever (and you didn't know this beforehand), shouldn't your priority be to warn people as much as possible?
It's an interesting point. I don't like using the example of Paul though as he never met Jesus. However, when you consider that the books of the bible were determined in the Council of Nicea for the Roman Empire, Paul's works make up up to 45% of the New Testament (I think). Couldn't they find any better or more threatening books? Surely they had it in mind to control the masses, so they would have chosen the books which had the largest threat of hellfire. Then we can assume that the ones which were disregarded were even less graphic!
Interesting stuff.
kenny:
my friend read these before you go very much farther in this forum.
http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html
[ http://bible-truths.com/lake2.html
http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html
http://bible-truths.com/lake4.html
http://bible-truths.com/lake5.html
http://bible-truths.com/lake6.html.html/color]
and that is just a start
Craig:
You are right hell is not warned of by Paul, Paul teaches the dying to oneself and to overcome sin. Paul also teaches that we can never do this on our own however, and because of Christ we are given the opportunity to become one with God.
Religion does spend most of its time warning about hell though. It tricks people into dividing into us and them it is used to control the members. When is the last time you have heard a sermon on the good news of scripture? We are warned of a fabled torturous hell and told that we must make the choice to accept Christ and go there or not. So we say a sinners prayer, leave church feeling warm and fuzzy and we live like hell, because we are "saved".
Then we become beaten down because we cannot will away our sins. We get saved this Sunday, and told we are going to "Heaven" and next Sunday we are told if we don't "tithe, stop drinking/smoking, believe in some odd doctrine our denomination believes in", we are going to hell...So we try to follow the "rules of religion" and live in fear and turmoil the rest of our lives.
WELL WHAT IS IT? Did Christ die for the sins of the whole world and creation or not? Do we believe we can will our own selves to God? Dieing to our carnal flesh and Christ taking our place is the whole purpose of scripture, and the thing most of us cannot comprehend.
Craig
Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: TheRysta on March 13, 2009, 06:00:45 AM ---This is the kind of question which many Christians should ask themselves but simply never do. I would probably have not either. I didn't find this point on Ray's site (I'm not sure if he mentions it or not) but from tentmaker.com. The simple point is that the Jews originally had no concept of eternal torture in the afterlife. This is clearly the most important thing to be warning people about. However, in spite of all this, hell is warned about surprisingly little. Take Paul for example- from what I've heard he doesn't even warn of eternal punishment in the afterlife. Just imagine being in his position. If you had recieved this revelation that millions shall burn forever (and you didn't know this beforehand), shouldn't your priority be to warn people as much as possible?
It's an interesting point. I don't like using the example of Paul though as he never met Jesus. However, when you consider that the books of the bible were determined in the Council of Nicea for the Roman Empire, Paul's works make up up to 45% of the New Testament (I think). Couldn't they find any better or more threatening books? Surely they had it in mind to control the masses, so they would have chosen the books which had the largest threat of hellfire. Then we can assume that the ones which were disregarded were even less graphic!
Interesting stuff.
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--- Quote ---I don't like using the example of Paul though as he never met Jesus.
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Well,if walking down the road to Damascus was not of a proper intoduction to Jesus,then I'm a monkeys uncle. :o
Acts 9
3 But as he was going, it came to pass that he drew near to Damascus, and suddenly there flashed around him a light from heaven;
4 and having fallen to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him: Saul, Saul,why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said: Who art thou, Lord? And he said: I am Jesus whom thou persecuteth!
indianabob:
So, Mark, you do believe in reverse evolution in some sense. You're brother is the father of a monkey??? ::)
Sorry, it was just too cute to resist. Bob
Well,if walking down the road to Damascus was not of a proper intoduction to Jesus,then I'm a monkeys uncle.
Acts 9
3 But as he was going, it came to pass that he drew near to Damascus, and suddenly there flashed around him a light from heaven;
4 and having fallen to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him: Saul, Saul,why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said: Who art thou, Lord? And he said: I am Jesus whom thou persecuteth!
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