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Isaiah:1: 19-20
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote from: Kat on March 14, 2009, 09:07:31 AM ---
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Yes, "been there; done that." You can't of yourself get yourself out of your sin and misery. You desire it, but you will not find the strenght in yourself to do it. God brings all of His chosen elect to the place in their life where they hate life; they hate themselves; and often hate God. When you get that low and are so very thoroughly convinced that you can and will never overcome you most horrible sins, that is when God will come to your rescue. You must be convinced that if you are saved from yourself and your sins, that it was God that did it and not you. I am convinced of that in my life. If God is choosing you, then it will also happen in your life. Just keep praying and obeying until God gives you the victory over yourself and your sin. I will pray for you.
God be with you,
Ray
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And here I was thinking absolutely, postively, surely and thoroughly of the satanly sifted kind..............that I was losing my mind. I could see light, dimly, at the end of the tunnel. So it isn't a train, after all.
Thanks for that Kat.
(as well as thanks to all others for the additional great posts on this thread)
Deborah-Leigh:
I know what you mean lilitalienboi16. It gets so painful at times that I have found myself saying to the Lord, "Please Lord, finish what You are doing QUICKLY. "Then I feel I am asking the WRONG thing and I repent because how else can I learn patience but S-L-O-W-L-Y.
As Ray says and is pointed out, that God brings all of His chosen elect to the place in their life where they hate life; they hate themselves; and often hate God. this process of learning that we are the Beast has to take time because we other wise could not bear it.
We have to get over being overcome and learn by direct experience that we can only endure or bear anything not because of any redeeming qualities or powers we have but only because and entirely due to the faith and power of the Spirit of Christ. To Him, our first love, we have to return and "....it takes the very presence of Jesus Christ to dispel the beast of humanistic self-determinism.http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html
Arc
inezray46:
Roy,I don't have any answers but I do have some experience. I started smoking when I was 13. I was the baby of six siblings and they all smoked. Back then it was almost a rite of passage. In 1973 I came to faith in Jesus and was very joyous. After a few weeks of great joy I had to deal with the reality of my guilt. Smoking cigerettes was the huge outside sin that people could see and it tormented me daily because I would try and try to quit and always go back. It would consome me for five years until I finally laid it down. It was hard but I was given the ability to go through the emotional pain. Quitting smoking is like losing a freind. I was amazed that I was able to do it. I quit for ten years. Our church life and the crazy things that went on in our lives was very tramatic. Spirtual abuse and betrayal was enough and we got out of it and haven't been back since. My husband didn't want anything to do with God but I wanted a relationship with him so the internet became my fellowship with believers. I found Ray Smith through my search and It freed me.
That isn't the end of the story. I started smoking again after 10 years. In my flesh I felt God didn"t love me and questioned everything. I started back out of rebellion and I felt I got my friend back, those nasty cigerettes. I quit in 1988 and smoked up until 2006 until I was diagnosed with lung cancer. I smoked up until my surgery and haven't smoked since. It was not hard to quit and I have not had any desire to smoke. If there was the slightest urge to smoke I would but I know that God made somehting click in my brain and it wasn't me.
I wish I could say in the flesh that I have a happy ending but not there yet. I was in the hospital yesterday and was told that cancer is back. I need a pet scan to confirm but it doesn't sound good. I might have cancer in the brain and several other places. I was shocked but I have a peace about me that can only come from God. I am ready for whatever God has in store and want to be a example of courage and strength to all my family. Please if you are led pray for my children and grandchildren. They are not handling it very well but I have to believe in God's grace for them.
Please enjoy your life and give up the fight. You will quit when it is time or you may not quit. It is in God's hand and his will. Barbara
Roy Martin:
Barbara, thank you so very much for sharing your story. It has touched my heart.
You and your family are in my prayers.
Love
Roy
judith collier:
Dear Barbara, of course I will pray for your family as they must be very sad and scared. And I will pray for you too! Love, Love, Love to you and yours. Judy
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