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A science debate
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Stevernator on March 18, 2009, 08:06:20 PM ---I'd like to point out that well over 99% of biologists believe in evolution and that we share 99% of our DNA with chimpanzees. Also, speciation has been observed. We have vestigal organs that dont really make sense like the appendix and we share similar anatomy to mammals (breastfeeding etc), the kingdom us humans are in. There is much evidence such as comparative anatomy, genetics, Many Christians do accept the widely held theory of evolution. You can go to youtube.com/donexodus2 or talkorigins.org to see some great information for the public. Also, the answer in the Bible according to Isa 45:7 is that the LORD creates evil.
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When someone asks me if I believe in Evolution, my response is, "well, that would depend on what you mean by evolution. If you mean the basic or primary meaning, that things change--evolve over time, and people & animals, etc. adapt to their surroundings; then I say yes, I do believe that, and Science supports that. But if by evolution, you mean that humans evolved from monkeys or sea slime, and that the Universe somehow came into existence on its own, without a cause, then I say no. That's where Atheists are no different from the religious people whom they despise. [...and by 'religious people', I am referring to the people who are part of the World Religions and Babylon. I don't consider myself a 'religious person' anymore.]
Amazingly, my interest in Science has actually grown since I came to BT. I'm kinda sad that I was so 'biased' back in my school days, because of my 'delusional doctrines'.
- Daywalker.
aqrinc:
And so it is; a word of caution to anyone who is doing research into matters Science. Even the good research and Scientists still have way too much Babylon ingrained in their training. Chief among their errors is: Mans Free Will, so don't get stumped when you run into this. When in doubt, use The Scriptures and Ray's papers as your measuring stick of Truth or heresy.
This is a time of rapid increase of knowledge, so be prepared for lots of catching up since your last textbook in school or after. Most books on Science written over ten to fifteen years ago need a healthy dose of revision.
The Scriptures; written many thousands of years ago, are still current Yesterday, Today and Going Forward.
Now that; you can take to The Bank Of GOD.
Joh 6:63 (DARBY)
It is the Spirit which quickens, the flesh profits nothing: the words which I have spoken unto you are spirit and are life.
Heb 13:8 (DARBY)
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and to-day, and to the ages to come .
george. :)
musicman:
I am somewhat convinced that animals can evolve away to a point where they may not be able to successfully mate. The horse and zebra can under certain circumstances but their offspring are sterile. This very well may link these animals. The trees of evolution can be convincing but should be taken with a grain of salt. It has been shown time and time again that homologous features are not necessarily due to similar DNA. Often, certain functions for body parts are controlled by completely separate genes in different animals. There will remain controversy as to what should be considered good evidence. I do see overwhelming evidence against the theory of macro evolution. For one thing, each step required for such a process would have to lend some kind of advantage to the creature for reproduction. The evidence cited for macro evolution does not answer any of these problems. And if God were to lead every step of evolution (absolutely necessary in my opinion) then it seems that He would have left a feasible way for such successions to take place, in the evidence. There is still much for me to consider here, but the basics seem clear. Mathematically, the theory is impossible.
Let me qualify this by saying, even if proven, macro-evolution can coexist with the bible.
daywalker:
--- Quote from: musicman on March 19, 2009, 01:01:16 PM ---I am somewhat convinced that animals can evolve ... And if God were to lead every step of evolution (absolutely necessary in my opinion) ...
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Hey Musicman,
And [as I'm sure you already know...] Genesis seems to support animals 'evolving':
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,...
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind,...
Water and Earth making animals [evolution?]. And your opinion is shared, and is Scriptural, as "all is of God".
Over & Out,
- Daywalker.
Dave in Tenn:
I think its important to distinguish 'Natural Selection' from 'Evolution'. Evolution as a theory springs from an understanding (or misunderstanding) of Natural Selection. Natural Selection itself is almost undeniably true--any breeder or expert in animal husbandry can replicate it within certain parameters. Surely God can do the same.
To note also...evolutionists do not assume that all mutations are 'improvements'. Indeed, they assume that most are failures. Don't know what that adds, but I'll type it anyway. ;D
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