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mhykx:
In the third part of Myth of Freewill, Rays wrote,

"I have no problem in justifying God in all of His doings, even though I personally am overwhelmed at times over the magnitude of pain and evil that God has subjected us to. It is humbling!"

Why do the pain and evil God subjected to mankind humble us?
How is someone humbled?

-Mike

aqrinc:

When one finally realizes that we are ultimately powerless to do anything about our own condition; then we are learning how to be humble. Why, because we finally see that of our ownself, we are nothing.

Don't worry, if you have never been there, you will; then you will be humbled.

george. :)

mhykx:
After reading the 4th part of the Myth of Freewill, I understand now what Ray meant when he said, "...the magnitude of pain and evil that God has subjected us to. It is humbling!"

George, thanks for your insight anyway.  I appreciate it.

-Mike

Dave in Tenn:
Hi Mike.  I love your questions.   :)  They tend to hurl me into the Word in a good way.

Literally, 'to be humbled' means to be made humble.

Phillippians 2:5-8  CLV.  For let this disposition (attitude) be in you which is in Christ Jesus also; Who, being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging to be equal with God, nevertheless (but) empties Himself, taking the form of a slave, coming to be in the likeness of humanity.  And, being found in fashion as a human, He Humbles Himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Think about that.  Christ Humbled Himself becoming obedient to death...not just any death, but the death of the cross.  What are we to do?  Take up our cross and follow Him.  If we follow Him, what did He do with HIS cross?  He obeyed the Father and died.  How did He die?  He humbled Himself to death.  Nobody killed him.  He didn't die of some disease.  He wasn't struck by lightening.  He died by the cross, on the cross.

Do we have some sense that for HIM to take up His cross meant one thing, but for us it means something different?  Do we still think that OUR cross is designed to make us strong, like some sort of spiritual excercise or weight-lifting?  I don't think so.  The cross, over time, saps strength and leads to death.  While we think we have strength, we are not exactly following Christ.  If we think taking up the cross is meant to build strength, I think we're wrong.

Keep reading in Phillipians 2 and see how we can follow Christ through humility and obedience into ressurection and glory.  

Vs 12-13 So that, my beloved, according as you always obey, not in my presence only, but now much rather in my absence, with fear and trembling (signs of true humility) be carrying your own salvation into effect, for it is God Who is operating in you to will as well as to work for the sake of His delight.

It's God's work to cause us to will, and God's work to cause us to work, and both are for His sake.  

vs. 9-11  Wherefore, also, God Highly exalt Him (Christ) and graces Him with a name that is above every name, that in the name of Jesus every knee should be bowing, celestial and terrestrial and subterranean, and every tongue should be acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord, for the glory of God, the Father.  

And there it is again...whether we live or die, are humbled or glorified, it is all of and by God for the Glory of God, for His sake, and for His delight.

When we really, REALLY know that, we're humbled.  Humbled to death.  Just like the cross, though, it can take a while.  And THAT is a humbling thought.

Samson:

--- Quote from: aqr on March 20, 2009, 12:39:14 AM ---
When one finally realizes that we are ultimately powerless to do anything about our own condition; then we are learning how to be humble. Why, because we finally see that of our ownself, we are nothing.

Don't worry, if you have never been there, you will; then you will be humbled.

george. :)



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Good Question by Mike and Good Answer from George,

I like the way George says " finally realizes that we are ultimately powerless to do anything about our own
condition." Most of Mankind never comes to that realization, expressed by George and will not gain Eonian
Life or the Life of the Age, only the Elect will.

Our Carnal Mind desires to want the power to stop our suffering and pain, because it doesn't feel good to
our flesh to suffer, but only God has the power to do something about it. At any rate, thanks for the
reminder, George.

                                     Kind Regards, Samson.

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