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TheRysta:
Hi, I've been doing a bit of research on Gnosticism. Some sects believe that the New Testament God is a seperate entity from the creator of the universe, which they refer to as the 'demiurge'. This apparently seems to solve the problem of evil.

However, it would pretty much flatten this assumption if Jesus ever reffered to God (specifically) as creator. I haven't even read the bible as it was only at the beginning of this year I even started thinking about God.

Could anyone point me to some quotes in the New Testament in which Jesus himself refers to God not only as HIS father, but as OUR FATHER or as the CREATOR?

Thanks.

- Ryan

aqrinc:

Hi Ryan,

It is ok to go ahead and start reading The Bible, you will need to learn so start asap.
you may want to do some research in Scripture to be able to understand.

Hope the verses below help you.

Heb 1: 1-2 (GNB)
1  In the past God spoke to our ancestors many times and in many ways through the prophets,
2  but in these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. He is the one through whom God created the universe, the one whom God has chosen to possess all things at the end.

Heb 2:10 (GNB)
It was only right that God, who creates and preserves all things, should make Jesus perfect through suffering, in order to bring many children to share his glory. For Jesus is the one who leads them to salvation.

george. ;D

Marlene:
Ryan, Have you read Rays papers from the main Website. He backs everything he teaches with scriptures. Some of those will explain the Father and Son relationship to Us. Also, it will explain evil. Just , reading all his articles will help you learn to read the Bible and also understand. It is through searching the scriptures that we learn truth. Believe me I have learned to go to the source. Actually, The Bible comes alive in Rays, articles. I would study and mark scriptures and Learn. If, we learn the scriptures in truth we cannot be deceived. Actually, the whole Bible speaks of God and his Son relationship with us.

Colossians Chapter 1
verse 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be prtakers of the inheritance of the saints in light

vers 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear son
verse 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
verse 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature
vers 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible whether they be thrones or dominions, or principlliteis or powers all thing were created by him and for him.
verse 17 And he is before all things and b y him all things consist.
I belive, you shall find these scriptures show where we fit in the creation and where the Son does and the Father. He died for us.

In His Love,
Marlene

edpro.pits@yahoo.com:
Hi Ryan.

I would defiantly suggest starting with just reading the bible and getting familiar with it and then read some of Ray's papers on bibletruths.com . The papers will definitely shed much light on what the bible teaches plus by getting familiar with the bible your self you can make your own judgement.

Edward

Beloved:
Mark 12 there is a parable about the Father and his vineyard and His Son

Mar 9:37  `Whoever may receive one of such children in my name, doth receive me, and whoever may receive me, doth not receive me, but Him who sent me.'

Luk 4:43  and he said unto them--`Also to the other cities it behoveth me to proclaim good news of the reign of God, because for this I have been sent;'

Luk 9:48  and said to them, `Whoever may receive this child in my name, doth receive me, and whoever may receive me, doth receive Him who sent me, for he who is least among you all--he shall be great.'
J
oh 5:30  `I am not able of myself to do anything; according as I hear I judge, and my judgment is righteous, because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who sent me.

Joh 5:37  `And the Father who sent me Himself hath testified concerning me; ye have neither heard His voice at any time, nor His appearance have ye seen;
Joh 6:38  because I have come down out of the heaven, not that I may do my will, but the will of Him who sent me.

Joh 6:39  `And this is the will of the Father who sent me, that all that He hath given to me I may not lose of it, but may raise it up in the last day;

Joh 6:44  no one is able to come unto me, if the Father who sent me may not draw him, and I will raise him up in the last day;

Joh 6:57  `According as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, he also who is eating me, even that one shall live because of me

Joh 7:28  Jesus cried, therefore, in the temple, teaching and saying, `Ye have both known me, and ye have known whence I am; and I have not come of myself, but He who sent me is true, whom ye have not known;

Joh 8:16  and even if I do judge my judgment is true, because I am not alone, but I and the Father who sent me;

Joh 8:42  Jesus then said to them, `If God were your father, ye were loving me, for I came forth from God, and am come; for neither have I come of myself, but He sent me;

Joh 9:4  it behoveth me to be working the works of Him who sent me while it is day; night doth come, when no one is able to work

Joh 12:49  because I spake not from myself, but the Father who sent me, He did give me a command, what I may say, and what I may speak,

here is some that are more specific
Joh 17:5  `And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee;

Joh 17:24  `Father, those whom Thou hast given to me, I will that where I am they also may be with me, that they may behold my glory that Thou didst give to me, because Thou didst love me before the foundation of the world

(Joh 16:28)  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit but here is a a scripture that states that God himself was the Father of Jesus

Rom 15:6  that with one accord--with one mouth--ye may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ

this was a quick pick

beloved

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