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Meat / milk
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: aqr on March 23, 2009, 10:24:08 AM ---
Rodger,
I see, still dimly but i see why we need to be weaned of milk and get to learn meat eating. Thanks for putting into words what has been churning in my mind without me being able to formulate it properly.
Antaiwan,
The point is knowing where we are, we can then decide to go on past the dead works, into maturity or keep going backwards. It like the dance steps; 1 step forward, 2 steps backward, then tremble, what progress is there. Big question; why do we wean our children off milk as soon as possible ???:
Heb 5:12
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
george. :)
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This particular statement that is highlighted, can either you or Rodger give examples to help others understand? Be specific as possible if you can, please.
Marques
Craig:
--- Quote ---Big question; why do we wean our children off milk as soon as possible
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The question has a lot of the answer. Why do WE WEAN our children. We do it, not them, most of them would not want off the milk when they need to, or they would want the tastier morsels too soon. But we don't give it to them lest they choke. The parent weans them when they are ready. Our heavenly Father will do the same to His children. We can't will our way to get off the milk, we are not in control of that. We can scream to our Father to give us meat, but if we are not ready then God will not choke you with it.
Mature members should not force the meat on anyone, and the less mature members should not try to eat more than they can chew. Everyone is in a different place in their journey. Everyone is welcome to fellowship no matter where they stand. If you abide by the forum rules what is it to me where you are in this walk? or even if you don't believe anything Ray teaches? No matter the circumstance, God has you were He wants you. That you can be sure of.
Craig
Marlene:
Hello All, First of all I want to thank Rodger for this post. Last, night before I went to bed I looked up Breast Plate in e-sword. I was shocked. Being, in Babylon for most of my life I never heard that mentioned. Now, I am going to go in and read everyone of them ask for guidance. The OT had never been anything I studied alot. But, because of Beloved's Post and now Rodgers. God has lead me to folow those post. There was so much in the Book of Ruth.
Now, I am going for Rodgers post. I have a page filled of scriptures and I do mean filled just on Breast plate. I intend to read and research all of it. Not sure when I will be back in cause Rodger is right there is alot in it. I tried to read some last night. As, many of you know I suffer in physical pain every day of my life. But, during this time of pain, I have had to stop working. But, out of it came something far greater. I am now able to spend the time with him. I had to apply for my disability, but God is taking good care of me and my husband on his income. It is not a large income but meets our needs.
But, just wanted to let you know where I am going with this. Right before coming in here it had been about a year that I had not been in church because of pain. During, that time only one family came to visit. One, girl would send me emails or call . But, God used this time to show me a great sin in my life.
I had it while in Babylon. To me it was the worse sin I ever had. I got caught up in a trap because I was not able to forgive. I did worse then the person who hurt me. Where is this going. The few times I had been in that sin while going to Babylon. My heart was not convicted to stop it. But, then he began to work with me one on one. He delivered me from that sin. But, I could not forgive myself or believe he would forgive me. That led me to thinking of Hell. I thought it so much I began to hate it. I hated it so bad I asked God to let me die . Then, I was asking him to led me to his truths. Now, we know the Holy Spirit was doing that. I came out and typed in Hell and God used Ray Smith to start teaching me the Meat. Yes, I say meat. Cause I never heard one thing Ray Smith teaches in Babylon. Well, we had been going to a church and it was more worldly then the one we left. It began to make me sick would I saw the wordly things in it. We left.
God was directing my steps in all of this. I do not have the urge to go back. During, that time, I grew up more then I ever had in my life. Just like Ray teaches from the Bible. You begin with a first Love then you walk away from it. Now, I am back and God willing I will stay.
Well, I got fed a good piece of meat that night. I never knew God. God is love not worse then Hittler and other men. God would have been saying to me he never knew me. Now, that was a big piece of Meat to chew on. Well, I got my forgiveness. He is changing me more everday than all the days in Babylon.
That night I worshiped him in Spirit and Truth. I believe and trust he is able to bring me through the finish line.
Because of all of you, it is a comfort to me to know that if you see me going wrong you will tell me. Why, because you do Love me. And Love, Never fails.
Ray is ill. I love that man. But, all of you who are strong in the Lord are a blessing to me.
God taught me something. You are to easily hurt. When, you are like that you are not able to forgive right. Not, being able to forgive got me in that last mess. I have been getting letters of presecution from a girl from my church. I know she is blind, therefore I forgive her. But, with each other we should not have strive among us. I always check now to see am I the cause of the strive. Do, I take things the wrong way. If, a Brother or Sister in Christ sees it they will use scriptures. I know that now. But, if I have not seen it God has not showed it to me yet. But, to fight and strive is like people who only have the milk. If, we believe in the things Ray has taught us and God enables us to grow and produce fruit. We know that he is changing us.
The night I asked God for Truth was my time. I had repented of that sin and was so sorry for weeks before God giving me the truth. If, we have something in us and God sees it. He will find a way to let us know. If, it means a Brother or Sister in Christ showing me so be it.
Well, this has been long enough. I am going to study scriptures. Cause, God has eased up pain in my body. I thank God every day for Ray. I thank God every day for all of you. We are all in this together.
In His Love,
Marlene
Marlene:
Amen Craig! That was said in a few words perfectly.
In His Love,
Marlene
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on March 23, 2009, 02:25:08 PM ---I hope this is specific as possible.
Gorwth in Grace
Rodger
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I mean on the forum...where and how this is happening on the forum. Examples of how one is staying on the 'dead works' and how one is going past them into maturity...examples of how one goes backward.
Here is the statement from George again:
--- Quote from: aqr on March 23, 2009, 10:24:08 AM ---
The point is knowing where we are, we can then decide to go on past the dead works, into maturity or keep going backwards
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Thanks,
Marques
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