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Going to Church - A Sin?
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--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 27, 2009, 03:28:15 PM ---
Be patient. Only God can lead her out when He thinks she is ready.
Arc
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This is the whole understanding to everything God shows us,,,
In His Wisdom and Time..
Pray always with Faith.
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Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: odinpop on March 27, 2009, 12:03:12 PM ---I just finished listening to Ray’s audio “Keeping Sabbath,” and have a couple questions. If Keeping the Sabbath is basically “ceasing from our works, “as Ray says…….. is it not a sin to “go to church” in the traditional sense? After all, are not most people going to church to meet what they see as, an obligation or requirement of the Ten Commandments? That would definitely be "works" and definitely not be, “ceasing from their works.” If I understand correctly “going to church” is “missing the mark,” or is sin!
Here is the reason I ask…..My wife does not believe as I do. She insists on all of us going to church, at the local Four Square Church, every Sunday, and also insists that it is a benefit to her and our three kids. I have resolved, for the sake of peace in the family, to continue attending with her. Am I sinning, in doing so? Is she?
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If one has the Spiritual Truths of God in ones heart and mind,and obeys what the Father and our Lord Jesus speaks to ones heart and mind, then to me, at least, sitting in a church building is not a sin. However it is a sin to follow the teachings of the babylon church. We are told to come out of her in Spirit.To appease your wife and children is of a noble gesture but how long can that last before the things of the carnal church start to creep back into your mind.
Peace...Mark
arion:
I realize what your saying but....how can we 'go' to church when we are the church? ;D
That being said your the prophet and priest of your home and upon you falls the primary spiritual authority and responsibility in your home. Whereas Paul said he could be all things to all people in order that he might 'save' some, he wasn't talking about his own home or children here. I don't have an answer for you except to let your light shine before your wife and children and in time (if it be the Lord's will to do so) He will open up their understanding on these things.
Personally, if it was me I no longer could dip my toe back in babylon's bath house even if it meant some uncomfort on the home front. Jesus said that our (spiritual) enemies would be those in our own household. It's God's way and a cross that you and many other dear brothers and sisters have to carry when one spouse has been shown some of the deeper things of God and the other one is yet still in the institutional church. May God give you both strength and wisdom in this matter.
musicman:
I think Ray has shown us that just a mistake is a sin. We as people can't always blame people for their sins. When a person goes to church for lack of knowledge, this is similar to someone tripping and falling down. Well, perhaps that person is elderly and not in the best of condition. Who are we to call it a sin? We don't have to. A sin is a sin. If a person is in this condition then they would be most righteous to be extra careful. Should they fall and are able to get back up? Great!! They will learn from this experience. The chosen must fall many times before they receive the real spiritual gifts. This fall often includes taking part in religious rituals for a time.
mhykx:
--- Quote from: odinpop on March 27, 2009, 12:03:12 PM ---
Here is the reason I ask…..My wife does not believe as I do. She insists on all of us going to church, at the local Four Square Church, every Sunday, and also insists that it is a benefit to her and our three kids. I have resolved, for the sake of peace in the family, to continue attending with her. Am I sinning, in doing so? Is she?
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Odinpop,
I'm also married with two kids (8 and 3). My wife also thought (and I did as well) that it is beneficial for us whole family to go to a "church". So we went all to "church" every Saturday for more than a year. During the course of our fellowshipping with the "church" and knowing its teaching and tradition, I began to question the sabbaths, tithing, and clean meats. I searched for answers. I encountered literally scores of sites before I finally settle here in B-T.
God made a way for us not to attend anymore in the "church". For 3 consecutive saturdays, different events (not religiously related) in our lives prevented our famlily to attend the "church" service. On the 4th saturday, this time I told my wife that we're not attending because I found out the true meaning of sabbath. I told her I'm going to share to her what I have been reading eventually. It went on and on until we no longer attend the service.
What I'm trying to share here is that God will make a way, in His appointed time, for you to explain to your wife why you should no longer attend the Sunday service in your "church". Until then, please accompany your wife and your kids (if you all go by car, they may need you as their driver, you know). Pray everyday for God's will be done.
Your brother in Christ,
Mike
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