Daniel,
I'm sorry for our disconnect. I would still welcome your perspective on Job. 35:2, 40:8, and 42:3.
I still see Job's scales falling away once he understood Isa. 55:9-"As high as the sky is above the earth are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Actually, I'd welcome any insight on these scriptures from any of you, especially Chrissiela-let me know if you find the article that Ray wrote on this
Grace be with you.
Okay heres the verses you mention, I'm not going to battle this out or debate this, I would say to each one their own.
Job 35:2
Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's? Can you point out where Job said this?
Jobs freind said,
Job 4:17
Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? Of all His freind said, Job replies
Job 9:2
I know it is so of a truth: but HOW should man be just with God?[/u]
Job 9:20
If I justify myself, "mine own mouth shall condemn me": if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.[/u]
Yet the Lord said of Job
Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan,
Hast thou considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?[/u]
The direct definition of both the "fear of the Lord" in proverbs IS to HATE "pride and arrogancy"
God said he was perfect and upright did GOD LIE here? :lol: Job understood IF he should SAY he was perfect his own mouth would condemn him.
Job 9:21
Though I were perfect, yet would I "not" know my soul: I would despise my life.[/u]
Sounds like "hating your life" in this world and saving it
Job 40:7
Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.[/u]
Job 40:8
Wilt "THOU" :idea: ALSO :idea: disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?Will THOU "
ALSO" (As his FREINDS DID disannul His judgment)
Job said (who said way earlier on)
Job 9:32
For HE is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. And answers to God accordingly,
Job 42:3
Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.BUT GOD SAYS
Job 42:17 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite,
My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, AS my servant Job hath[/u].
Why on earth use Job as a "good example" of those who endured if his way was shoddy? :lol: That still don't make sense to me. You'd think the apostles would say, "Dont be like Job, because he was a self righteous proud man" :lol: Yet God starts out calling him perfect and upright and ends with Job speaking what is right of God. :lol: To me the point seems is moot. When I look at Job I dont see Him as much as the goodness of God that came to Him. Even after he had to endure the longwinded speeches of his freinds.
Surely God looked and saw they had no comforter, because THEY were such MISERABLE COMFORTERS :lol:
Thats how I see it anyway
Daniel