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How do you know if you are called and chosen?
love_magnified:
Jack these are some great replies. My suggestion start simple.
Luk 14:8-10 "When someone invites you to a wedding, don't take the place of honor. Maybe someone more important than you was invited. Then your host would say to you, 'Give this person your place.' Embarrassed, you would have to take the place of least honor. So when you're invited, take the place of least honor. Then, when your host comes, he will tell you, 'Friend, move to a more honorable place.' Then all the other guests will see how you are honored.
As you know the wedding is now, and you are in the kingdom now, but you also want to enter into the kingdom which has been purged of its "wicked servants" so that you can have a part in the powerful ages to come. This is our hope. But don't "attempt" to get in and don't assume an important role as though you already have.
Just be humble. Just love Jesus. Be confident in his lopsided victory over death. Right now the first thing on your plate is to grow in love. You must focus on that and pray for it. It is absolutely mandatory.
God bless you.
rocky:
For me, what I struggle with is realizing that my flesh does not define who I am. I have to look to my heart, and there I find Christ. The whole called versus chosen thing, in some ways has bred legalism into my life. The flesh can not be converted, it will always be there. Trying to quit sinning in order to be chosen never works. For me, I have come to trust this verse:
Rom 8:15 for ye did not receive a spirit of bondage again for fear, but ye did receive a spirit of adoption in which we cry, `Abba--Father.'
Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself doth testify with our spirit, that we are children of God;
love_magnified:
So it boils down to this, from the impression I have gotten so far: don't worry about your position with God. Christ died for your sins, so forgive others. Follow him, and have faith in his victory. All things will be added if you stick with the core basic.
Daniel:
Rocky writes
--- Quote ---The whole called versus chosen thing, in some ways has bred legalism into my life.
--- End quote ---
I understand what you are talking about, at least your honest. Throwing around the word "elect" as if it's some kind of "spiritual elitism" grosses me out too. If one is chosen (in Him) they would be chosen to bear fruit (that would remain) and in that fruit there is no such attitude that I can find in scripture. Often even the way "that" can be taught can sometimes overthrow the faith of some, as you well know. In some it seems to breed hopelessness to "the calling" and any "present desire" becomes dismissible. Thats the fruit I see it producing in some. Some things are in how you might perceive it and not as someone else defines it for you. You always know a tree by its fruit. Know it also "in yourself" and what kind of fruit it bears in you. Your internal meter is (to me) the truest.
How could you desire to give diligence to making your calling and election sure, with that? Count that drawing you feel in you as the call and hope toward Him as you do. Don't let anothers perception of something rob you of that. Hope maketh not ashamed, adjust your thinking that He would not make you ashamed who have come to put trust in Him.
Daniel
Pilgrim:
how do you know that you are called?
Simple!
You will know at the time when you no longer ask if you are called. You will know!
How will I know if I am chosen?
Simple!
Same as called!
What is my part in it?
Simple!
Complete surrender to God's will. Do it now if you haven't already! He will take it from there!
What am I supposed to do?
Simple!
Same as your part in it!
What am I supposed to feel?
Simple!
Nothing! Relax and enjoy and He will take over! You will feel what He wants you to feel when He wants you to feel anything.
there are a lot of people I don't love or even like?
How do I change this? Do I have a part in this?
Simple!
Welcome to the club! Know that love is not an emotion or a feeling. It is an act of the will! You don't have to like anyone or anything. When you love, the liking becomes automatic! Relax!
What do I need to do? ....and what do I need to feel?
Simple!
Re-read all of this message from one who has been through "hell" and survived...and God did it all when I learned to "Let go and let God" !!!!
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