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"THE" CHURCH VS. "MY" CHURCH
Roy Coates:
In my neck of the woods people in the local church equate being called out with being in the church and called out of the world. They cant see "come out of her my people" as a calling out from the worlds church system. When I spoke to my pastor about this he eluded to something that I never heard before. He said there is such a thing as a "church in a church". I have been meditating on what he said and have several more questions to better understand what he meant.
charrie:
An experience that jumps out for me is "you need to be in church" religiosity.
Christiandom would have you believe that all it took was for a person to step into a "church building" and WHAM!!!! you are now alright within their world. I used to think the same thing. When I would go out "witnessing" the major thing was..get into a church..and now you hear Christendom saying that it doesn't matter what church you attend, the only thing that is important is that you GO TO CHURCH AND HEAR THE WORD OF god :o :o
But the problem is they aren't giving them the word of Yahweh.
I use to say to people "you need to be in church" as if that is what was going to save them. but I realized even while in Babylon that there were more worldly, carnal people in church then in the world. I would notice that some of the meanest people were there and I was one of them.
That's why I've said that coming out of Babalon has been such a burden lifted off of me. It was actually hard going to church. When I went I felt unfulfilled afterwards. More like I had just wasted 2 or 3 hours of my time, not to mention my money (xfaithful tither here). I was actually frightened to stop tithing -I waited for something really bad to happen to me -. But guess what :D :D :D Now I feel like I don't have to put on a show. I don't have to dress up and compete or judge those people who didn't wear the "right type of clothes" >:( >:(
Now, I Assemble everyday :) :) at any time of the day, all day. Not a moment of my time is wasted. I can dress any way I please and I give to those who are REALLY IN NEED.
I like being a part of "the assemble".
Charrie :-*
aqrinc:
--- Quote from: Roy Coates on April 11, 2009, 10:19:52 PM ---In my neck of the woods people in the local church equate being called out with being in the church and called out of the world. They cant see "come out of her my people" as a calling out from the worlds church system. When I spoke to my pastor about this he eluded to something that I never heard before. He said there is such a thing as a "church in a church". I have been meditating on what he said and have several more questions to better understand what he meant.
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Hi Roy Coates,
Even the Dumb A.ss (Donkey) saw and spoke The Truth to balaam when balaam was blind (Num 22: 20-33). Your Pastor may have known, in fact probably does know that there are many churches (Temples of GOD) attending his services. Here are Four Witnesses that he must read over and either accept his errors or deny them.
Joh 14: 20-24 (GW)
20 On that day you will know that I am in my Father and that you are in me and that I am in you.
21 Whoever knows and obeys my commandments is the person who loves me. Those who love me will have my Father's love, and I, too, will love them and show myself to them."
22 Judas (not Iscariot) asked Jesus, "Lord, what has happened that you are going to reveal yourself to us and not to the world?"
23 Jesus answered him, "Those who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will go to them and make our home with them.
24 A person who doesn't love me doesn't do what I say. I don't make up what you hear me say. What I say comes from the Father who sent me.
1Co 3:16 (KJV)
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
2Co 6:16 (KJV)
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Rev 21:22 (KJV)
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
george. :)
cjwood:
--- Quote from: Roy Coates on April 11, 2009, 10:19:52 PM ---
He said there is such a thing as a "church in a church".
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roy,
i am not sure if your pastor meant the same thing, but, my momma has said for many, many years that "there is a church within the church". she said her understanding of it was that there is a (relatively) small group of people who are the faithful in the church, meaning they are faithful to the church and faithful to the assembling together at the church. perhaps your pastor has a different definition of this particular phrase, but i would almost guess that he doesn't mean it in the way that Christ meant it when he differentiated between His church and the church.
claudia
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Roy
You bring into the light a major flaw in the foundation of the Synagogue of Satan.They do not have spiritual eyes or ears to know that when The Spirit of Christ teaches we are to have two or three witnesses to establish Truth, Christ does NOT mean that the witnesses are to be members of the Synagogue. The Witness is a spiritually matched SCRIPTURE and is not a PERSON believing in a lie and accompanied by another person or persons believing in the same lie.
[A] "…that in the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES every word may be established" (Matt. 18:16).
"…In the mouth of TWO OR THREE WITNESSES shall every word be established" (II Cor. 13:1).
[C] "And I will give power unto my TWO WITNESSES…" (Rev. 11:3).
This particular law of Scripture is constantly violated. We are to have at least a second witness to establish a Scriptural truth or doctrine.
Why do Christians and theologians hate what I have just shown you? Because when we put these two spiritually matched Scriptures together, we also are given the added knowledge that there is SALVATION in and through this fire which judges us, and the Church doesn’t want all mankind to be saved. http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
Hi Charrie
--- Quote ---more worldly, carnal people in church then in the world. I would notice that some of the meanest people were there
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Ray also draws attention to the fact that the worst hate mail he receives comes from Christendom who curse and send him to hell.
You point out that the synagogue of Satan corrupts the meaning of where two or more are gathered in much the same way as they falsely assume that the witness is literal not Spiritual.[A] "Knowing this first, that no prophecy [inspired writing or speaking] of the Scripture is of any private [Gk: ‘its OWN’] interpretation" (II Pet. 1:20).[/color] http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
The Synagogue of Satan exhibits a major crack in their building on false doctrines that assumes that if there is no physical gathering there can not be any spiritual presence of Christ. On this they encourage membership and belonging to any Synagogue, as long as it is a Synagogue. In fact the opposite is true. We have to COME OUT and away. Jesus always went away to pray to the Father alone.
Amazing, isn’t it. Jesus "assembled [Gk: episunagoge]" with His Father BY HIMSELF, ALONE. We can do the same. Not just on Sunday morning or Wednesday evening, with a crowd, in a building, but on every day of the week, and we can do it while we are ALONE.[/color]
http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html
As for the Synagogue of Satans physical dress code.
Luke 11 : 39 Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but INSIDE you yourselves, are full of greed and robbery and extortion and ;malice and wickedness.
As for quote, "there is a church within the church".... We might do well to ask...Where?....Show us the Scriptures. We know of no such thing.
Christ says clearly there is THE Church and MY Church. A church within a church is theological double talk, square pegs in round holes, saying nothing, meaning less and going nowhere except to deceptions and inside tracks of murky dirty spiritual heresy.
As revealed in the Scriptures George prepared for us to see, Jesus answered him, "Those who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will go to them and make our home with them.
Will God share His residence with Satan as a church inside a church...
It is God Who provides us with "ears to hear and eyes to see."http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html
Satan is functioning PERFECTLY as God’s adversary. Satan is essential to the purpose and salvation of the whole human race. That is why God created him in the first place. http://bible-truths.com/lake2.html
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