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Question: How can a man go against God's will?

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Kat:


Yes we have choices, but even these choices are part of His plan.  It is so hard to grasp the complete sovereignty of God.  Sometimes I don't think we fully understand the implications of this verse.

Isa 46:10  Declaring the end from the beginning,
       And from ancient times things that are not yet done,
       Saying, "My counsel shall stand,
       And I will do all My pleasure,'

Since He knows "the end form the beginning," then He has full awareness of everything in between.  That means there are no 'ifs.'  There can not be any, 'what IF I had just known what to do'... 'what IF I had left on time'... 'what If I had not been there'...  No 'ifs,' it happened the way it was intended to happen, the only way it could have happened, because God is sovereign and knows "the end from the beginning." 

We are having this physical life experience because it is what God has determined is the best way for us to learn and develop the fruit of the spirit.  Eventually, either in this life or the next (LOF) everyone will learn the fruits of the spirit.  Notice that all of these fruit are about ones attitude or who one mental disposition.

Gal 5:22  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
v. 23  gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

We are doing all these physical things in our life, we are given our physical senses which we use to develop how we feel about things, our attitude.  But all of these physical things will go away (nothing physical lasts, it is temporary) and what remains is the experience, what we learned, attitude.  It is ultimately the fruits of the spirit that are the good works/attitude that will remain, judgment will remove all the rest.

1Co 3:13  each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
v. 14  If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
v. 15  If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

EKnight:
I think Roy's story is the perfect example of God's will in our lives.  It was not the will of this man and his wife to miss this flight.  But it was also not the will of God for the wife to get on that flight.  It was not her appointed time.  So whose will prevailed?  And His will shall always prevail.

The flip side is that in this circumstance, the couple is grateful and gave glory to God, however, it seems when things don't appear to go our way, then we refuse to accept God's sovereignty.

I was going to say something else but God just took it right out of my head and won't give it back---always working all in all.

Eileen

Marlene:
Yes, stories where we see it is God's will help us to be humble and see we are not in contol. When, we realize that God is control of all things, it will bring peace to our life. I am so glad he controls the whole world. Just, look what goes one when Man thinks he does.

I always wanted children. I have been a diabetic for years. But, it still has affected my body over the years. If, I would have had children I would have had trials that would have been more then we could bare. We, have enough as it is. I have other health issues too. But, God has been good to help us through all our trials. I know, our trials have made me and my husband better people.

I think, what really helps us  all to endure is knowing that after the physical we have God waiting on us.

Just, as I know I have all of you of like mind to help with your prayers and help me to understand when I just don't see it. I thank God for you every day and for Ray. The people in Babylon have no idea what knowing the whole truth can do for a person. It is just not a select few like some club that Jesus came for .  Our, understanding of this sets us free of worry for others after death if they do not believe. The elect will be right in there with God helping the others to overcome. Now, if that is not a grand thought I don't know what is. God will do exactly as he pleases and it will all bring out a good purpose.

In His Love,
Marlene

judith collier:
Roy, that is a good life event in remembering for you and us. We all need to be reminded of God's control. It helps us to feel like a child of a loving parent even when we are disciplined. judy

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