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Ecc 9:5 vs-
cherokee:
Meee,
Here is a link to a email(s) with comments that may help you understand better.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,240.0.html
Suzie
aqrinc:
Hi meee,
Sorry about the confusion with your questions. Here is a link you may have read some of; it should keep you busy for a day or two:
Nothing is left that we can call our own, see below.
Ecc 9:10 (ASV)
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in Sheol, whither thou goest.
More of Rays Teaching.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7500.0.html
There are many subjects here that partly address your questions, after a study you will have those and many other questions answered.
george. :)
EKnight:
Mee,
Maybe this will help?
You have to get out of out if your head the idea that the spirit soul and body are "separate entities" as if they could function independently of each other. Remember my TV analogy of six years ago? The console is the body, the picture is the soul, and the electricity is the spirit. Yes, they are "entities," if you will that have distinct names, and functions, but none of them produces anything independent of each other. Smash the console and you have not soul (picture). Pull the plug and you have not soul (picture).
Likewise remove the spirit, and the body dies. Remove the spirit and the soul disappears. Smash the body and the soul disappears. The soul IS THE SENTIENT man. The emotional, thinking, conscious man. This consciousness is called "soul." It is not a thing that can literally travel or go somewhere independent of the body and brain. That is why it is said in the Greek Scriptures that at death the soul goes to hades. Hades means the unseen, the imperceptible, unconsciousness.
It takes spirit from God in a body to give it life, which life is then called "a LIVING SOUL."
It takes a little meditation to understand these concepts.
God be with you
Ray
meee:
Good morning Cherokee, Suzy, Eileen and George,
Thanks so much for your input and I will study these out and pray.
I know our body is the temple for the Spirit and understand the breath of life and being dead means not knowing,being aware of anything, sound asleep, as it were. I know God makes people living souls as well as animals are living souls and also that we are either living souls or dead souls.
Thanks again for the links and for the TV thing from Ray, it's going to become clear soon.
hugs,meee
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Marlene on April 27, 2009, 06:09:38 PM ---Daywalker, I know he gives us breath and he breaths this in us and we become alivie. When, my father was dying they asked us not to talk about his illness cause the brain could still hear it till he actually die. I know, our spirit goes back to him. I know he will resssurect. I did not think I had a literal body inside me. Without, that breath I am dead.
I sat there and watched my Fathers breathing go so low you could barely tell when he had stopped except we knew he had died. God was so gracious to us.
I have no doubt in my mind we are dead. But the breath is in his care till he blows it back into us.
But, I know the Spirit of God is working in me now. Never thought I had another person in me. Sounds more like what Babylon might think.
In His Love,
Marlene
--- End quote ---
Meee: Is it that we are either a living soul or dead soul and that's it?
We are called living souls [Gen 2:7], and souls die [Ezek 18:4,20], so that seems to be a fair conclusion.
To be Scripturally "specific", God calls us dust: "For dust you are" [Gen 3:19], and hence this is where we return when we pass.
Marlene,
The reason I mentioned that our spirits are not persons [though I was convinced that you didn't believe that...] was because of the debating of 'do our spirits sleep?'. But since the 'spirit' represents our 'breath--life", and is not a 'person', it doesn't sleep. Sleep represents Death, but Spirit is Life.
I'm so sorry to hear about your Father. I know what it's like to watch someone die. I watched my Nana die a few years ago; she got breast cancer, and it was too late to do anything. I visited her in the Nursing Home, and like you said, her breathing was so low I thought she was dead. Plus, her whole body was stiff cause all the drugs they put in her. Then later that same day, my Mom went to visit her, and she actually was dead. She yelled for the nurse, and at first they said that she was only sleeping, but Mom made them check her pulse, and she was dead. I remember being so angry at them, because this was not how she wanted to die! >:(
But anyways, fun talking with ya,
- Daywalker. 8)
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