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Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Killed in Iraq
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: Alan ---
Taking the offensive is fine, as long as it abides within the Royal Law of Christ and His doctrine.
God does will the use of the military, but he's only using those who do not have Him living inside of them.
Our governing authorities serve their father, the devil, just as much as Osama Bin Laden.
Our war is spiritual, and not physical like the people of this world.
Alan
--- End quote ---
Alan, It is simply not enough walking and talking above everyone else; remember how Christ chastised the pharisees for their disdain of all not of their order. Not for a moment should we think that we cannot fall into the same trap. Unfortunately, neither you, I or any one else in this world is free from the influence of Satan.
Jesus himself was meek and never walked with airs.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
So Alan you say that our world leaders (read President Bush) " serve their father, the devil, just as much as Osama Bin Laden."
Really!! So may I ask you how YOU can read a man's or woman's heart in order to discern what is inside. I thought that was only something that God can do. Are you certain of that, I mean willing to argue with Christ that "He" was mistaken, that our authorities did not have God in their hearts. Really, you know this? I think not. We, each one of us is the living proof of the will of God.
But your above quote is double-side, which is something God's Word is never. You state that our authorities are put in place by God but serve their father, the devil, just as much as Osama Bin Laden, really!!! And you know this?
You state that: "Our war is spiritual, and not physical like the people of this world."
Not true my friend.
Alan, please consider the words of John:
1Jo 3:17 But whoso hath the world’s goods, and beholdeth his brother in need, and shutteth up his compassion from him, how doth the love of God abide in him?
Now the words of Jesus:
Alan, how will you answer Jesus when he say's to you:
Mat 25:45 ......Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.
Do you not see the physical connection here. These are not spiritual words, but words by which we are commanded to lead our daily lives.
Remember what Jesus taught:
Luk 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.
Luk 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked [on him], and passed by on the other side.
Luk 10:33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion [on him],
Luk 10:34 And went to [him], and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Luk 10:35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave [them] to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
Luk 10:36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
Luk 10:37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.
So if anyone of us, distances from ourselves from those in need, (just as the Priest and the Levite) is distancing ourselves from God, for what ever we do (or not) for the lowest of these, we do likewise to Christ. Are we so prideful of our relationship with God that we ignore such as these.
Gosh I hope not; Alan, we are mandated to act, to help; and like it or not, our authorities are in place by the will of God and not Satan.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God.
With Love,
Yellowstone
JJ:
So far so good! Everyone is discussing one of the most touchy subjects
and being nice! So many good posts to think on! Keep up the good
attitudes!
JJ
gmik:
Just got home and read this entire thread. Lots of good ideas, thoughts, opinions, and great scripture.
Isn't it funny that every idea and opinion, totally opposites, can find and use their own scriptures that seem to prove their point?
here is my 2 cents: I tend to agree with the scriptures that manonthcross and yellowstone used.
No, I don't REJOICE that a man died. I do REJOICE that so many innocents will now be spared. He was an awful evil man. I used to could rejoice that he would suffer in Hell. Now I know that he will be tried and purged but he will "get saved" in the end. So, I am glad his life finished early just to spare others.
My son served in the Marines 8 years. He is not uber-patriotic but didn't want to kill anybody. But he did want to protect the innocent.
America is not perfect, and I know I am just a traveling thru since this world isnot my home, But I praise the Lord that I live here and had the freedom to stumble onto this website. Maybe it is still an idol of the heart, but no way can I compare Bush with BinLaden.
God puts who he wants in power and we are to pray for them. God has not had Bush hacksaw anyones head off. A "king" of a nation that sends an army out is usually not called a murderer. Perhaps God is using America to punish the sins of the Iraqis. Didn't he cause the holocaust to punish the Jew??
This is all of God. When God wants Osama found , then he will be found.
Sorin:
Gena,
Out of all the posts posted on this thread I tend to agree with yours the most.
where do people get off comparing President Bush with a terrorist, a cold blooded killer like Bin Laden?
Look what the so called "peaceful muslims" have in their little Allah book of theirs. This religion is pure evil, I personally believe Allah is Satan.
Ishaq: 676 “‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said, ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’�
zander:
Its a modern Christian crusade against innocent people who have never threatened us.
Christianity is no less evil than their warped islamic views. You cant tell me that Bush or Blair dont beleive in an eternal fire either. Pots and kettles.
Leave one another alone
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