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Bringing the people out of Egypt
meee:
--- Quote from: Judy on May 21, 2009, 05:03:17 AM ---Kathy, we are Israel!!! Before I knew much of anything at all I was led by the Spirit of God to read the bible one night and it spoke to me by the Spirit and it called me Israel. I didn't know why or what and questioned everyone I knew but nobody had an answer for me but I knew it was God and I believed it. Judy
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Yes, in Gal. 6:16 it sats," And as all who walk by this rule,peace & mercy be upon them, abd upon the Israel of God." This is speaking of us., and anyone that is of the new covenant, I think.
Before this it was talking about the new creation, that's us.
hugs,meee
Deborah-Leigh:
"For if that first covenant ['covenant,' not law] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For FINDING FAULT WITH THEM, He said, Behold, the days come, says the Lord, when I will make a NEW COVENANT [not a New Law] with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah... For this is the covenant that I will make... I will put my LAWS [same old laws-but new covenant] into their MIND, AND WRITE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS..." (Heb. 8:7-9).
There it is!
http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D3.htm
bunnylife:
--- Quote from: aqr on May 21, 2009, 01:23:38 AM ---Bunni,
The difference is now you can see and hear better, they are still blinded and deaf. It is All OF GOD'S Will to cause things to happen in HIS Appointed Time. Remember that your deliverance is By HIS Grace And Faith, for you are HIS WORKMANSHIP, In Jesus Christ, lest any should boast.
They too will be given hearing and sight, in due course. Ray has taught and The Scriptures verify, that we are all decieved, until GOD, In Jesus Christ removes our blinders and earplugs.
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George, you are right and I know that it is only by the grace of God that He opened my eyes and I am and we are HIS WORKMANSHIP. And because they are now opened, I do see things clearer by His spirit and not because of anything I did. I am upset by the teaching not at the people or the pastor. I do love them and it hurts to see them in deception but it hurts because I too was in that deception. Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I know it part of the process of coming out. And I know at God's appointed their eyes will be opened too.
Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Tit 2:11 For the favour of God, bringing salvation for all men, hath shone forth, 12 Putting us under discipline--in order that,--denying ourselves of ungodliness and worldly covetings, in a soberminded and righteous and godly manner, we should live, in the present age, 13 Prepared to welcome the happy hope and forthshining of the glory of the great God and our Saviour Christ Jesus,-- 14 Who gave himself up in our behalf, that he might redeem us from all manner of lawlessness, and purify for himself a people as his own treasure--zealous of noble works. (Rotherham)
Bunni :)
aqrinc:
Bunni,
That was my thought when i wrote the answer and quoted Those Scriptures. Yes you are on the ball and right to feel upset, but remember, GOD Is Who is sending them the strong delusion, that they believe a lie.
I am right in there with you feeling sorrow and Praying for That Day, now i know that it is a turning point for the entire human race, back to GOD.
george. ;D
SeekingHIM:
--- Quote from: aqr on May 21, 2009, 01:23:38 AM ---Bunni,
The difference is now you can see and hear better, they are still blinded and deaf. It is All OF GOD'S Will to cause things to happen in HIS Appointed Time. Remember that your deliverance is By HIS Grace And Faith, for you are HIS WORKMANSHIP, In Jesus Christ, lest any should boast.
They too will be given hearing and sight, in due course. Ray has taught and The Scriptures verify, that we are all decieved, until GOD, In Jesus Christ removes our blinders and earplugs.
Tit 3: 1-9 (WNT) Weymouth
1 Remind people that they must submit to the rulers who are in authority over them; that they must obey the magistrates, be prepared for every right action,
2 not speak evil of any one, nor be contentious, but yield unselfishly to others and constantly manifest a forgiving spirit towards all men.
3 For there was a time when we also were deficient in understanding, obstinate, deluded, the slaves of various cravings and pleasures, spending our lives in malice and envy, hateful ourselves and hating one another.
4 But when the goodness of God our Saviour, and His love to man, dawned upon us, not in consequence of things which we,
5 as righteous men, had done, but as the result of His own mercy He saved us by means of the bath of regeneration and the renewal of our natures by the Holy Spirit,
6 which He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 in order that having been declared righteous through His grace we might become heirs to the Life of the Ages in fulfilment of our hopes.
8 This is a faithful saying, and on these various points I would have you insist strenuously, in order that those who have their faith fixed on God may be careful to set an example of good actions. For these are not only good in themselves, but are also useful to mankind.
9 But hold yourself aloof from foolish controversies and pedigrees and discussions and wrangling about the Law, for they are useless and vain.
george. :)
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I'm still a little confused. I've been reading a LOT, and I understand that some of us have been "delivered by faith and grace" but I still grieve over those who aren't saved at this time. What are we saved FOR? I know that I have been redeemed, that Jesus took that spear instead of me. I understand that it is God's Will that some believe a lie. Does that mean I quit hoping that my husband will want what I have? What is the difference between being "saved" now or going through the "lake of fire" and having the dross burned off later? Why would really worldly people care if they are saved now or saved later? I don't mean to be disrespectful. I'm reading as fast as I can; Maybe my questions are answered elsewhere.
Patricia Ragan
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