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southland:
All the above makes sense to me :)

Matt

Linny:
I agree Craig. It has to be part of our carnal nature. To be right, to get in the last word, to be victorious over someone else. It is a fight within myself and I truly believe that part of the reason I wasn't shown these truths earlier is because a younger me wouldn't have been able to keep my big mouth shut!

My hardest ones have been keeping quiet with my preacher Brother-in-law and sister and with a friend who is deeply into the Curt Cameron movement to save sinners from hell by showing them how they break the 10 commandments and must get saved before it is too late. She even went to CA from KY for training and goes out regularly all the while angry that all Christians aren't doing this.

Astrapho:
Yes, it has gotta be part of my carnal nature. I think I've mentioned it somewhere, two christians decided to debate with me over a couple of comments I made on a few hell videos (I really couldn't help dropping in my two cents :( ) and after a while I realized that it was impossible to discuss with them because their beliefs are just SO different from mine.

I think I'm gonna follow your advice. I don't care whether it makes me look like a coward or if it makes me look as if I'd surrendered, I'm just gonna link them to Ray's website and be done with them.

Ninny:
1  I beseech you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service.
2  And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God.
3  For I say, through the grace given to me, to every one who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think. But set your mind to be right-minded, even as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith. Romans 12:1-3

Thinking about George's reply with this chapter of Romans, verse 2 brings me back to reality when I start thinking that I can change someone! Why do we want to change what God has made?? Look in the mirror! That's what this verse tells me, who is this person? who changed YOU? was it a healthy debate? NO!! It was a desire which was planted BY GOD! Letting God be in control is the only way to stay clear of conformity to the world! So there is no sense in endless debate! (I'm not really so wise..I learned that stuff from being there and doing that!!) People used to hate to see me coming! ;D annoying and sad! :(
Kathy :)

arion:
I can really identify with this as well.  For many years I have been active on various forums and felt like I needed to take a stand for the word of God.  I've gone around and around with the Catholics and members of various cults but of course never to any avail.  Then to my chagrin after becoming familiar with Ray's teachings and testing them against the Word I found out that I was as guilty as those that I had spoken to about their errors.

Let God be God.  He is the one that has to open the eyes.  A blind man simply can't see no matter how hard he wants to.  And truly its been a weight off my shoulders to know that I don't have to be an expert on everything and I don't need to argue anymore.  There are times now when I will give a mild correction to the carnal teachings of the church and then simply provide a link back to the website where they can read what the lake of fire is and what 'hell' is and is not.  God will bring those around whom he chooses to bring around.  For years I would of rejected most of the truths that Ray teaches and then one day 'poof' the light bulb went on and I began to understand.  But it isn't until God opens our eyes that we can see.  At one time I fancied myself as a teacher but I was teaching error.  I am now content just to be one of the flock and to learn.

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